[Raptor]

Okay, nasty can of worms time.....

With the HTL build looking more stable, and with these very high ships starting to appear, the V ships are going to start looking very dated.

So, should we, as a commiunty, rebuild V's ships?

Please post opinions, but no flaming please.

[Taristin]

Well... We... err...

Maybe?

[Black Wolf]

I'd like to say yes, but I would have to acknowledge what a huge project this would end up being, and what degree of individual variation would inevitably creep in, either through people intentionally changing the shape of the model to make it (In their opinion) better, or just in peoples different styles of texuring and modelling. So I guess I'm a cautious yes, as long as things remain canon looking and a relatively high degree of coninuity can be maintained.

[kasperl]

people are already doing that, the Mjolnir has been done, i spotted other sentry's, and there are plans to re-doing Mik's high poly Herc 1 too. basicly, if anyone feels he could help, he can pick a ship and go to work.
edit:

re-read some stuff.

i think the shape should stay the same, and only details should be added. we can use the textures as guides there. new textures aren't going to happen, the skills are simply not in this community. if anybody thinks he can create new textures for :V: models, go ahead, but i have seen nobody jumping at the chance. higher poly models should be made though, but only adding details, rounding bends, and that kind of stuff.

[Flaser]

My answer is a definite YES.

On the other hand it's up to the modellers and their inclination to do it. So I have to go with: IF THEY WANT TO.

They can do a marvelous job - see the Fenris/Leviathan (once its finished) or the Mjorlin.

However if they aren't inclined to re-realise an old concept, than there's nothing we can do about it other than giving them nice ideas that would make it interesting or doing it ourselves.

BTW it should be more than mere remodelling - it should expand the original concept with all the new things that could have been done by :V: if they could or cared to.

Things like Big Anti Capship guns for FS1 ships - not beams, just guns that would be slow and high-caliber, like WWII battleship canons - of course that would need the rework of FS1, but if carefully edited these guns wouldn't upset the game, only add life to the capships.

[Nico]

Well yeah, that should be done, but the shape should be respected, not like I don't remember whom' herc1, with the ablated nose .

[Raptor]

Well, as quite few are in favor, I'll start working on the Aeolus then.  Been thinking it needs a face lift for some time, even before HTL came along.

[Flipside]

Very very cautious 'Yes' but Black Wolf is right, remodelling the ships would involve putting things in that aren't currently there, i.e. Greebles, details in the Textures etc, and that would vary greatly depending on who was doing it

Flipside

[Drew]

well.....duh!

[TopAce]

I think it is no worth the effort. Nobody would see those changes in the middle of a dogfight. If you were wondering ... I was the one who voted for the second choice:

No, they should stick to Canon!


Maybe the lighting effects would be a bit better, but I belive original V models are really good considering to their age.

[Flipside]

I think they do work pretty well myself, besides, people would notice the changes and whinge or make pointless posts like 'well duh'.

[magatsu1]

worthwhile, but I reckon original work should be put first.

[Raptor]

Well, I had the idea that this project, IF it was started, would be completely open, with as many people as possible having a say on the new looks.

Here's my stab at the Aeolus. A basic, first stage outline.




If people prefer that the V model not be replaced, then this could be an 'Aeolus MkII' or 'Aeolus Refit' then.

It's a little longer (290m ATM), a little fatter ATM, and is not quite as deep.  I was aiming for a lean, sleek shape, with the dorsal/ventral turrets having proper places. What do people think so far?  Suggestions?

I will round off the edges later, and it might get UVmapped.

[Ace]

A good example of how a community could upgrade the look of their models can be seen here:
http://starsiege2845.com/

StarSiege had low polygon models, but the new mod for Tribes: Vengeance has faithful recreations of the models as well as new ones.

[magatsu1]

Needs more detail. More Polys.

I know that's a ****ty thing to say. People keep sayin' it to me.

How about reshaping the turrets so they look more than acopy/paste stylee box glued to the main model ?

[KARMA]

the crap thing is that most of the ship would require a retexturing, more than a remodelling.
BTW, there's an high poly Fenris model coming soon.....

[aldo_14]

I'm against the idea.  Originality is much better, especially as the design, capabilities, etc in the original models would have been determined partly by the engine capabilities.  Plus its more interesting than rehashing... same reason I've never really wanted to do anything for the various TC's that are underway, regardless of how interesting the subject matter is.

[karajorma]

I wouldn't make it some official project. Just let anyone who wants to redo one of the ships do so. That's pretty much what's going on now and I've got no problems with it at all.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Ace
A good example of how a community could upgrade the look of their models can be seen here:
http://starsiege2845.com/

StarSiege had low polygon models, but the new mod for Tribes: Vengeance has faithful recreations of the models as well as new ones.

That's cool
I never understood what was thr thing that made starsiege turn into a UT like
Mechas were way cooler.
"remembers the first one, Earth Siege,  with the wooping 24*24 textures" Laugh all you want, but I still think it looked darn cool. Too bad I can't make it run under XP.

[IceFire]

If they get redone, I wouldn't want to see a re-writing of the history books for the craft.  They should essentially look the same and have the same shape but have more and better details.