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Offline Freespace Freak

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Re: Small HTL pack release
You're supposed to put the media vps into a folder called "mediavps" in the main FS2 folder

Did that a long time ago, and I put all the fsport vps in a seperat fsport folder.  That's not what I was asking about, though.  I asking about the -*shp.tbm.

 

Offline ARSPR

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Re: Small HTL pack release
Er, not to sound like a total ignoramus, but, I have no idea wtf a -*shp.tbm is or what it does or how to make it or how to find it or anything.    :nervous:  I just threw all of the mediavps into the fsport folder, advaffect, models, textures, etc.  The only one that seemed to have any affect at all was the advaffects.vp, at least at this point.  I'll see what happens when I install the 3.6.8 Media vps now that I got 3.6.9 working now.  I hope it doesn't crash.   :doubt:

Please read Karajorma's FAQ and Wiki help on tabular tables (in Modding section) and -mod flag help.

A few hints:

  • .tbm files are modular tables which are used to partially change or update standard tbl tables. WhatEverName-shp.tbm changes ships.tbl, WhatEverName-wep.tbm changes weapons.tbl and so on.
  • You don't have to install all media vps in every other Mod folder (such as FSPort). It would be a good idea to make a cleaner setup. Put media vps in their own folder, (which people usually call mediavps but IT IS NOT COMPULSORY), and then use MOD.INI files inside each mod folder to point and use media vps (through SecondaryList command).
  • Game data is loaded in the directory precedence set by -mod flag. Inside each folder the vps are loaded in alphabetical order. If you have several different versions of the same file in different places or vps, the game uses just the very first one, the rest is ignored. Nevertheless all tbm files are usually loaded and then they change the associated tbl file because they usually have different names, so no one is overriden.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2006, 09:50:50 am by ARSPR »
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Re: Small HTL pack release
Oh! I found what I was looking for.  Doh! :headz:  I read the instructions on his FAQ, but I missed that part.  So I got to download that mod.ini from his FAQ, make it look like this:
Code: [Select]
[multimod]
secondrylist = ,fsport,mediavps;

I downloaded the fsport from here and I didn't see any mod.ini files in those downloads, so I guess I got to do it the hardcore way.

And I guess that's it?  I'll try that, and I'll remove all the mediavp files from the fsport folder and even remove the models and textures for the Fenriliathan and see if it can do it just with the mod.ini.  I'm slowly working on not being a newb.    :rolleyes:

I'll need to figure out how to do those .tbm things next because it seems to be affecting a mod I'm trying to create.

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Small HTL pack release
If you're putting that mod.ini in the FSPort folder it only needs to point to the mediavps folder.

If you think about it logically the game must have found the FSPort folder already in order to read the mod.ini in the first place after all :D


A mod.ini like that would be used by a mod that used BOTH FS1port and the mediavps
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Re: Small HTL pack release
Well, I did the .ini thing and it works, but I still don't know what the .tbm thing is about.

 

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Re: Small HTL pack release
Well, since the ini thing worked, the .tbm thing is irrelevant.

The TBM thing would only be a case scenario for use if you were not using the mediavp files in conjunction with FSPort AND you didn't want to rename the fenlevy file for the leviathan.
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Offline ARSPR

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Re: Small HTL pack release
Oh! I found what I was looking for.  Doh! :headz:  I read the instructions on his FAQ, but I missed that part.  So I got to download that mod.ini from his FAQ, make it look like this:
Code: [Select]
[multimod]
secondrylist = ,fsport,mediavps;

I downloaded the fsport from here and I didn't see any mod.ini files in those downloads, so I guess I got to do it the hardcore way.

And I guess that's it?  I'll try that, and I'll remove all the mediavp files from the fsport folder and even remove the models and textures for the Fenriliathan and see if it can do it just with the mod.ini.  I'm slowly working on not being a newb.    :rolleyes:

I'll need to figure out how to do those .tbm things next because it seems to be affecting a mod I'm trying to create.

Please note that SecondryList = ,fsport,mediavps; was needed due solved bugs. Launcher 5.4 allows you to use the correct typing: SecondaryList = fsport,mediavps;. (Look at the previously missing a in Secondary and the "useless" starting comma)
IF YOU HAVE TROUBLES WITH FS2:
  • Please, please, please, READ and UNDERSTAND the sticky threads in FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support board.
    A lot of people are willing to help you, but, as anyone can understand, seeing the very same "issues" repeated again and again can become quite depressing. Please, spend a bit of time trying to solve the issue by yourself.
    (Lobo deserves a monument).
  • Then, if you aren't still able to solve your issue, feel free to ask for help in that same board.
    FYI, most of the troubles are caused by wrong mod installations which lead to either missing data or undesired cross-effects between them. Always follow the mod installation instructions and keep a clean FS2 installation as explained in the sticky threads. Two additional links about how the game handles game data:
  • If you think that you've discovered a bug, mantis it.
    Provide as much info as you can, and try to narrow it down. A lonely "FS2 doesn't work" is not a good report.

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Offline karajorma

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Re: Small HTL pack release
Yeah. I need to update that :)
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Offline Freespace Freak

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Oh! I found what I was looking for.  Doh! :headz:  I read the instructions on his FAQ, but I missed that part.  So I got to download that mod.ini from his FAQ, make it look like this:
Code: [Select]
[multimod]
secondrylist = ,fsport,mediavps;

I downloaded the fsport from here and I didn't see any mod.ini files in those downloads, so I guess I got to do it the hardcore way.

And I guess that's it?  I'll try that, and I'll remove all the mediavp files from the fsport folder and even remove the models and textures for the Fenriliathan and see if it can do it just with the mod.ini.  I'm slowly working on not being a newb.    :rolleyes:

I'll need to figure out how to do those .tbm things next because it seems to be affecting a mod I'm trying to create.

Please note that SecondryList = ,fsport,mediavps; was needed due solved bugs. Launcher 5.4 allows you to use the correct typing: SecondaryList = fsport,mediavps;. (Look at the previously missing a in Secondary and the "useless" starting comma)

So if it still says SecondryList = ,fsport,mediavps; will that cause problems with launcher 5.4?

  

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Nope but you should change it if you're making a new mod.ini
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