[Stealth]

an arbiter could be some sort of AWACS perhaps

[Black Wolf]

Stealth, what would you do if you joined up? Currently, I think we mainly need 2d sprite makers and wireframe builders (again 2d - by wireframe I mean the damage indicator for Terran ships)

[Stealth]

if we're converting FS2 -> SC then i can convert the ships

if we're converting SC -> FS2 then i can model them

[Black Wolf]

We're doing FS2 -> SC. Have you had a look at the tutorial link I posted?  It's not really converting as such...

BTW, we're gonna clog the thread if we keep talkinmg like this - you have ICQ? (PM me the number if you don't want to display it)

[Knight Templar]

As an outsider's view, I know this may be annoying, but I have a suggestion.

In total conversions, people usually get ideas to replace current items. I remember I suggested the same replacement method to the FS2 > Armada mod that bit the dust. Well now that I think about it from what they said, It makes a lot more sense to keep the same function of things in freespace then adapt them to be SC's units.

Point in case: It may be better gameplay wise, to make the GTA AWACS an observer type, but don't make cloakable to be just like the observer. I'm thinking the idea is to make FS2 into a sweet RTS using starcraft, not simply replacing SC's units with FS2's.

What i'm saying may be a little extra work in the long haul, but it would make it a lot better.

[/KT's 2 cents]

[Stealth]

yeah, i looked at that tutorial thing.

looks like my profile got changed back to the old one when the forums went down... i can't remember my ICQ number, i'll PM it to you when i get home.

[Black Wolf]

Absolutely KT, that's the ultimate goal. However, if changing sprites in Starcraft is hard, then doing that kind of thing with our level of experience is impossible. What we're doing now is a sort of phase 1 - we're getting the ships into the game, making Parts of Starcraft look like FS2 but still run like Starcraft. Phase 2 will be what you're suggesting - making it both look and play like Freespace - a much bigger task. That is definitely our ultimate aim - though it will undoubtedly be aopne hell of a ***** to realize... still, should be fun

Originally posted by Stealth
yeah, i looked at that tutorial thing.

looks like my profile got changed back to the old one when the forums went down... i can't remember my ICQ number, i'll PM it to you when i get home.

OK - but I'll be asleep by then (going to bed now). Hopefully we'll be able to talk when deep_eyes is on tomorrow.

NB - anyone else who's seen the tut and can see how sorta medium difficulty it is () and wants to help should also post here, or PM me and/or deep_eyes - once we get the sprites mod done, we can work on a proper TC.

[Stealth]

yeah, i've already talked to deep_eyes

[Nico]

Originally posted by Black Wolf
We're doing FS2 -> SC. Have you had a look at the tutorial link I posted?  It's not really converting as such...

BTW, we're gonna clog the thread if we keep talkinmg like this - you have ICQ? (PM me the number if you don't want to display it)

nope, you, it's SC -> FS2
you put fs2 gfx into Sc, so you turn SC into FS2 and... her... never mind
"the geek runs away"

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by venom2506


nope, you, it's SC -> FS2
you put fs2 gfx into Sc, so you turn SC into FS2 and... her... never mind
"the geek runs away"

"and launches his smackage machine in defense mode, grabs venom and sits him down on the development team!"

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d00d.... were going to do BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:thepimp: DAT BIOTCH!

[Alikchi]

God, no, not more Starcraft.

[Black Wolf]

Hey Deep eyes -

http://www.blizzforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10998

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by Black Wolf
Hey Deep eyes -

http://www.blizzforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10998

d00d u r the greatest!!!!!!!!    


i sent u a message, im going to bed now with the wife lol... i see u tomorrow night

[Black Wolf]

As promised - Myrmidon Pics



A myrm terrorizing some Zerg drones.




The myrm moving - note that it still retains the Wraiths engine burn thing.





The only decent shot of a Myrm firing anything that I ended up getting.

More pics to come, including cloaked myrms and some general myrm battle shots.

[Nico]

btw, wouldn't it be cooler to do that with warcraft3? 3D and all...

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by venom2506
btw, wouldn't it be cooler to do that with warcraft3? 3D and all...

i was thinking about that, but if we are to do that, we would have to change everything in that game, and its too new for me to know or of us to really know the engine well. i mean it would be good cause since its 3d it uses its own models to make cutscenes, and such. were just really attepmting to focus on getting this done via a tried and proven system +engine.

the suggestion is noted and i will research of wc3 is a possible engine.

BTW we are going to do the sc>fs2 & the fs2>sc ports. BOTH. so if u wanna donate some meshes.... be my guess...

[Nico]

Originally posted by deep_eyes


i was thinking about that, but if we are to do that, we would have to change everything in that game, and its too new for me to know or of us to really know the engine well. i mean it would be good cause since its 3d it uses its own models to make cutscenes, and such. were just really attepmting to focus on getting this done via a tried and proven system +engine.

the suggestion is noted and i will research of wc3 is a possible engine.

BTW we are going to do the sc>fs2 & the fs2>sc ports. BOTH. so if u wanna donate some meshes.... be my guess...

sure, but I won't help for SC->FS2. I've had my share of 2D RTS modding and don't want to ever work on sprites again.

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by venom2506


sure, but I won't help for SC->FS2. I've had my share of 2D RTS modding and don't want to ever work on sprites again.

thats alright, i already wighed the abilities of people who have suggested things and stuff here. i already know u have the skills in 3d programing so i wouldnt even attempt to bring in another person into the 2d issue unless ur also a 2d artist, but it is a headache so thats why im keeping it to me and blk-wolf for now. were going to attempt to recruit people from the starcraft communities and see what we can do.


so this means we got unofficial teams?
FS2>SC: Deep Eyes, Black Wolf, (ahem) Stealth ()

&

SC>FS2: KT, Venom, Deep Eyes, B-Wolf, Stealth ( )

[Stealth]

i'll help with both

by the way blackwolf, that myrmidon looks awesome in-game, good job!

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by Stealth


i'll help with both

by the way blackwolf, that myrmidon looks awesome in-game, good job!

right now im in a meeting with my cities High School Super Intendency office, lol... and im sneeking a peak in HLP!!!!!!!!!! bad bad me!

Im just keeping people up to date on the project were going to be conducting.

for now we have discovered a google worth of programs for stacraft to moddify it. so im in the works (when i get home) to get these lovley programs to good use.

I'll talk to stealth and BW tonight (for BW thats morn), and discuss the next steps in the moddification.

later ima get caught!