[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan
People who assert things as fact and cannot support them, let alone prove them, should not be tolerated.

Tolerance is not universally good - tolerating them is like tolerating someone holding a gun to my head.  

Why?

[01010]

Because a difference of opinion is the same as a shotgun in yer mouth apparently.

[Kazan]

no - because people who build their entire worldview of irrationality are dangerous - they slow the progress of our species, their push their religion on others, they encourage ignorance, they try to take other peoples human rights from them

they encourage barbaric human rights violations such as circumcision, descrimination based on sexual preference, etc.


Different opinions are not inherently dangerous - they're often good.  However when someone bases their opinion, and their worldview, on complete and total irrationality and ignorance they are dangerous and should not be tolerated.  

They are mentally ill

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by karajorma


What a load of racist crap. The koran says no such thing.

Racists!!!  
****man
I learn that in school!!!
how does it go??
Do they not believe that if they kill,
they will be rewarded in the afterlife!!

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan
no - because people who build their entire worldview of irrationality are dangerous - they slow the progress of our species, their push their religion on others, they encourage ignorance, they try to take other peoples human rights from them

they encourage barbaric human rights violations such as circumcision, descrimination based on sexual preference, etc.


Different opinions are not inherently dangerous - they're often good.  However when someone bases their opinion, and their worldview, on complete and total irrationality and ignorance they are dangerous and should not be tolerated.  

They are mentally ill

Yup..... this is another example of you trying to reinforce your argument by making ever-more severe insults.......

Is it no ignorant to discount the beliefs of others out-of-hand, regardless of what they may be?

Originally posted by jdjtcagle


Racists!!!  
****man
I learn that in school!!!
how does it go??
Do they not believe that if they kill,
they will be rewarded in the afterlife!!

And how many Muslims do you actually know?

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by Tiara

Common thought. Without light you have no darkness.
 

Actually that isn't ture...Without light you have darkness!!!:D

@Mik - perfection..o.k...
Tell me Mik..how would you describe a perfect woman?
I bet that everyone of us here on the board would give a different description. Thus, your "perfection" is just that - your own. True perfection is something that every, single beeing in the universe would agree upon... something beyond or limited imagination...and something like that doesn't exist...

Originally posted by Kazan
People who assert things as fact and cannot support them, let alone prove them, should not be tolerated.
 

Maby I cannot prove I'm right (to you), but you cannot prove me wrong either....

@jdjtcagle - the Kuran doesn't explicitly say that.... it's just that some psycho priests tend to emphasise some things and stretch their meaning... Actually the Kuran is remarkably similar to the Bible (disturbingly smilar, alltough the tone of it is a bit more commanding and agressive)

[jdjtcagle]

thanks for clearing up that for me, trashman:)
now I better get out of here before I piss someone else off.
It's a bad thing pissing off people that you're around everyday

[Ghostavo]

True perfection is something that every, single beeing in the universe would agree upon... something beyond or limited imagination...and something like that doesn't exist...

Math is perfect...
A perfect woman is a contradiction as if it's perfect, it's not a woman, and if it's a woman, it can't be perfect. (same can be applied to any being).

What you are really asking him is not the perfect woman, but rather what woman (or type of woman) would he prefer, which is different.

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Originally posted by Tiara

Common thought. Without light you have no darkness.

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Actually that isn't ture...Without light you have darkness!!!

I think she meant "Without light you have no shadows."

[karajorma]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle


Racists!!!  
****man
I learn that in school!!!
how does it go??
Do they not believe that if they kill,
they will be rewarded in the afterlife!!

You better take that class again or simply shoot your teacher if he or she was the one who spouted such racist crap. My father is a muslim. A shia at that (the more fundementalist branch). He prayed to mecca every day and read the koran enough that he was at one point writing a book on the life of the prophet.

He also married a christian and raised an atheist and an agnostic. If you're correct we all should be dead.

I advise you to stop talking crap. Your views are the most stupid opinion's I have ever heard in my life. You argue a point you know nothing about and manage to insult people by doing it.

Leave now and return when you can open your mouth without **** falling out.

[jdjtcagle]

sorry, man didn't mean to offend anyone.  I think we bothe lost are tempers on this one.  I'll shut up, but I didn't want anyone to be mad.  The deal is my teacher's (Ignorant on the subject as I find out today) told me this was true. I feel horrible:(
I dug my self a hole and I'm sorry
Next time I see them I'll be sure to talk to them

[karajorma]

In that case I'll go get myself som vallium and calm down

[Ghostavo]

The thing about extremists is that they exist everywhere, be it in the christian, muslin, atheist, etc... comunity. Too often people forget that, and the media don't really help when it comes to this.

Although... I've never heard of Budist extremists

[karajorma]

Well the guy burning himself to death on the front cover of that Rage Against the Machine album cover might have been leaning slightly in that direction

With Buddists it's hard to find extremists since karma is of such huge importance to them.  "Go kill these people. Buddha will reward you by making something equally nasty happen to you in another life"

"I think I'll pass then"

[Kazan]

Originally posted by Ghostavo


Although... I've never heard of Budist extremists

Ghandi [j/k]

[Kazan]

aldo: Refute my statements - you cannot call them "insults" until you can refute their validity

TrashMan: you fail to understand something even though i've repeated it to you over and over -- simply being unable to prove you wrong doesn't make you right, nor does it even lend validity to your position.

the total inability to bring any evidence to bear on a subject by both parties generally means that subject isn't even possible.

It is irrational [by freaking definition] to take your position because you  have no evidence.  This is LOGIC 101!  

You are taking the "positive position" - ie you assert something
I am questioning your assertion, and if you knew anything about logic you would know that your assertion is so ludacris it is doomed to fail the moment it comes out of your mouth.


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My side assertion is that Theists are irrational -- well this is proven, by definition, by them taking a position which they do not have any evidence to support.

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by Tiara

Without evil there is no good. You must know evil before you can know good.

Have you read what went before?

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Tiara

Common thought. Without light you have no darkness.
 

Err. Without light, you can't have a shadow...

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by Ghostavo


My point exactly
So we're not perfect!

Not now.  Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the biblical story?  In essence, humanity was originally created the way God intended, but later, by our own choice we disobeyed God and altered our nature in the process. Now we are imperfect.  In our originally created state we were not.

[Kazan]

Knight: "Shadow" is technically different from "Darkness" - however "Darkness" and "Shadow" rely upon the definition of "Light" and the definition of "Light" relies upon the definition of darkness

symantically - now we have more scientific definitions which are just obfuscations of that circular definition

[Ghostavo]

Sesquipedalian, if humanity was perfect, they wouldn't have made that mistake and behaved the way they did.