[karajorma]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Here's something wierd:)
The person that played Jesus in the Passion, was struck by lightning twice when on the cross:eek:

It's certainly funny but anyone nailing themselves to a cross which it the highest thing for miles around should expect the possibility.

[Kazan]

aldo: your "supposedly" conflicting definition of hysteria does anything but - it agrees with my usage

as for a "christian" saying anything - THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT - However they cannot back it up

I cited the definitions for you and you're trying to argument them and can even understand the bloody things.

Some days I swear my cat is smarter than the average human.. ****ing  pathetic

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by karajorma


It's certainly funny but anyone nailing themselves to a cross which it the highest thing for miles around should expect the possibility.

good point.

and Kazan the world is filled with average human beings, so if your going to insult us, talk to your cat

[Kazan]

sounds like a plan, i'd probably get an intelligent response from the cat


hehehehe

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
Sesquipedalian, if humanity was perfect, they wouldn't have made that mistake and behaved the way they did.

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
It is notable that the descriptions of Adam and Eve never use the terms perfection or imperfection.  The idea isn't on the radar.

This is a more significant point than is often recognised.   Asking if they were perfect or not doesn't make sense--no one ever said whether they were or they weren't.  Its like reading your math book and asking whether it said Shakespeare was a good poet--a math book doesn't talk about that.

What the Bible says is that humans were made with freedom of choice, that they could undergo change as a result of their choice, and that they were originally intended to live in communion with God.  Were any of these "perfections"?  It doesn't matter.  All that matters is that they were these things.

[Setekh]

Kazan, I wonder. What is your purpose in life?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Setekh
Kazan, I wonder. What is your purpose in life?

Setekh, what's your purpose?

[Setekh]

Heh. Well, I was going to say what I thought of Kazan's previous comments (in which I observed a certain purpose which I once had), but I thought I'd better ask first what he thought of himself.

(My purpose in life, btw, is to live out the reality of my being brought to life as more than a physical being, and help others to know and havve the very same thing. In a manner of speaking. )

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan
aldo: your "supposedly" conflicting definition of hysteria does anything but - it agrees with my usage

as for a "christian" saying anything - THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT - However they cannot back it up

I cited the definitions for you and you're trying to argument them and can even understand the bloody things.

Some days I swear my cat is smarter than the average human.. ****ing  pathetic

What, that religion almost exclusively occurs in women (as in hysteria)?   The majority of symptons (arguably, all of them) are in no way applicable to the majority of religious people - whilst there is the phenomena of religious hysteria, this is not universal, and more importantly hysteria is not restricted to religious people.

 I'm sorry, but if you are going to espouse an extremist view along those lines*, you're going to need something a hell of a lot more compelling than your interpretation to convince me (or anyone) of them.  You're going to need to provide me a definitive link and proof, beyond just quoting the definitions.

So far, the only proof you've offered is to have faith in your unqualified interpretation - and I can't see any stronger basis in your interpretation than mine.

Oh, yes, and was there any need for the insult at the end?  Or did you just want to boast about having a cat?

*i.e. that every religious person in the world is in some way - and has to be -  mentally ill

[Ghostavo]

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
This is a more significant point than is often recognised. Asking if they were perfect or not doesn't make sense--no one ever said whether they were or they weren't. Its like reading your math book and asking whether it said Shakespeare was a good poet--a math book doesn't talk about that.

What the Bible says is that humans were made with freedom of choice, that they could undergo change as a result of their choice, and that they were originally intended to live in communion with God. Were any of these "perfections"? It doesn't matter. All that matters is that they were these things.

If the math book described Shakespeare and his poems you could say if he was a good poet or not, except math and Shakespeare are different subjects and that wouldn't have much of a point. The bible describes Adam's and Eve's actions (not sure if it tells you an exact discription of them) so you can say if they are perfect or not. One of the things people praise about "god" is he's perfectness, so one can assume that humans never were perfect as I don't see anyone praise Adam or Eve. I'm not denying that they weren't what you are telling they were, I'm just telling they weren't perfect and that in religion the only thing that is perfect is god, whoever he may be. Of course this only applies to monotheism as politheism is totally diferent in this perspective. Now if someone could remind me why did this discussion about perfectness began I would be grateful...

[Kazan]

*laughs* faith my arse

Setekh: the only purpose you have in life is that what you give it - my purpose is to have fun and live well.

you people are preventing me from having fun

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan
*laughs* faith my arse

Setekh: the only purpose you have in life is that what you give it - my purpose is to have fun and live well.

you people are preventing me from having fun

You're preventing yourself, methinks.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by aldo_14


You're preventing yourself, methinks.

If you want to have fun do it yourself. It's your choice to take part in this debate

I do however, share your views on life. My goal is to live my life the way I want to live it. If I do that, I can die and fade away happily knowing that the time I spent alive was worth living for.

[Kazan]

aldo_14: it's hard to enjoy life when you are surrounded by irrational people, bigots and other less than savoury characters.


Ever been annoyed with a person for their predictability? try finding 95% of the population utterly and completely predictable

[aldo_14]

"Live for today, not for tomorrow"

It's a good philosophy.  

Although it falls down a bit if you're saving up to go on holiday or summat.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by aldo_14
"Live for today, not for tomorrow"

"Live for today, prepare to have fun tomorrow"

[Kazan]

That's better Tiara

/me flogs Aldo for trying to ascribe incorrect axioms to my philosophy

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Kazan

/me flogs Aldo for trying to ascribe incorrect axioms to my philosophy

Hey! Keep me out your flithy S&M dreams.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Hey! Keep me out your flithy S&M dreams.

Sado AND[/u] masochism?

[aldo_14]

Oops

Me dad nearly started up a company called 'S&M Marketing' till we pointed out the possible, er, misunderstandings.... I've got the 2 terms mixed up ever since.