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Offline Fineus

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Wacom Art... help / advice / opinions / etc. Needed! (Attempt 2)
Hey all, I got my pad today, and of course I'm diving in the deep end with using it, but the quickest way to get things right - other than practice - is posting up a product and seeing what can be improved (and indeed how) since I'm not used to working with a graphics tablet and this is my first image with it (once the basics were down).

So, opinions. The entire thing was done by me - in particular I'd like to know how to sort out the jagged/fat outlines... I'm thinking increasing the resolution while drawing them will help a lot - but all opinions and aid are welcome. Thanks!

Edit: Ok, second attempt at this thread (copied from the original). Constructive posts only please :rolleyes:

 

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Well, you don't draw the outlines with the wacom :p
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hehe :P

go here:

www.GFXartist.com

One of the biggest digital art communities, has a great tutroial section with pieces written by a number of pros. Plus some pretty stonking artwork :P
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Nico: Duely noted... but I'm not sure what the best way to get line art into Photoshop is (and indeed make it decent)...

Jiggyhound: Thanks man, nice tutorials!

 

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FISHY!!!
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
I'm not sure what the best way to get line art into Photoshop is


pen tool.
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hand made, then scanned, touched up, etc.
That's the only real way, I'm afraid, to do.
Of course you can use splines, pen tools etc, but yeah, you don't build a house with a fork, right?
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Vasudans wuv fishes.

What is it that you're using to draw with, Kal?
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Cheers for the feedback guys, I'm currently playing with Carls pen suggestion (which is turning out very well) on an old drawing I already had scanned in. Expect complete coloring with the tablet.

Corsair the entire image above was created using Adobe Photoshop and a Wacom Graphire 3. That's it (it was done in freehand by the way, hence the jagged lines. Carls pen suggestion has entirely removed this).

 

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And here's the results of my pen tool work... not sure how I'm going to apply it to more detailed objects. We'll see.

  

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Actually, that, to me, looks like that could open like a Chrysalis, with rows of ships inside. Sort of like a Shivan 'Carrier' ;)

 

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ookay, now that i've finally seen this, great stuff getting a wacom, :yes:

but the real trick is getting it to look 3-d without the lines..

like so..


but it can be used to get decent looking cartoony style stuff as well..


th' real trick is getting the lines to look smooth.  a wacom's great for that...

the more you practice with it, the better at it you'll get

pressure sensitivity rocks..

oh, nico, i need to pick your brains about making air/spacecraft in photoshop..;)

EDIT: this was done with a tablet, BTW http://www.deviantart.com/view/5047759/ (not mine, but immensely cool)
« Last Edit: March 16, 2004, 08:01:25 pm by 86 »
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in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
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Originally posted by Turnsky
oh, nico, i need to pick your brains about making air/spacecraft in photoshop..;)


I can't :p
I make them in 3D, and just touch 'em up in PS.
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Turnsky, dude! How do you get your line art into Photoshop.. so far the prefered method seems to be:

1. Sketch.
2. Scan.
3. Ink using pen tool in Photoshop/Illustrator.
4. Color using Photoshop.

Obviously thats the condensed method but you get the idea. Is that on the money?

 

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mine's a tad more long-winded;)

lessee..
i use a technique simular to this one: (albiet with a few minor differences of my own.. not exactly efficient, but it works..

http://www.machall.com/indexcontent.php?doshow=info_art

altho, you can scan direct, and work away at it like so..
   //Warning\\
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in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
he will become docile after that,
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Nice mate, thanks - time for me to go sketch something :nod:

 

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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Turnsky, dude! How do you get your line art into Photoshop.. so far the prefered method seems to be:

1. Sketch.
2. Scan.
3. Ink using pen tool in Photoshop/Illustrator.
4. Color using Photoshop.

Obviously thats the condensed method but you get the idea. Is that on the money?

My exact method:
1. Sketch
2. I stick a transparent sheet ( tracing paper ) over the sketch
3. I redraw with ink following the sketch ( Rotring or Pilot pen, depending on if I'm brave enough to recharge the Rotring or not ).
4. Scan
5. Inking adjustement ( with level, contrast, etc ). Because of step 3., this becomes much easier
5. Colouring. in PS

Edit: on a side note, that Alpha Shade comics on your link is cool, Turnsky
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Offline Turnsky

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that works too..
   //Warning\\
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do not torment the sleep deprived artist, he may be vicious when cornered,
in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
he will become docile after that,
and less likely to stab you in the eye with a mechanical pencil
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Great start on the fish and the station, Kal. :) I'm totally ignorant about tablets, so I encourage you to go with what has led me through every other thing I've had to learn from scratch - experiment experiment experiment. :nod:

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Man, Steak, if you EVER draw stuff by hand, you owe it to yourself to give a tablet a try. Heck, if you ever have to touch up a photo or render, you have to try a tablet. The fine grained control you get with it is vastly superior to a mouse in every way.
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