[Bobboau]

Originally posted by Nuke
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[Thorn]

Bob beat me to it...

If his post wasnt obvious enough.... look harder...

[Singh]

If you want interest in fs2 and the SCP, just re-release the original CDs, compiled along with a CD holding the ub3rfied SCP stuff.
Give it a different release name like Freespace 2: Valhalla or something like that and stuff in Derelict, Inferno or maybe a few other campaigns.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by an0n
Virgin released Freespace 1 + 2 as a White Label bundle pack in the UK.

I know, because it's the one I've got.

my Logitech Wingman Force came with Freespace 1, among other games, and that was in 2000.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Singh
If you want interest in fs2 and the SCP, just re-release the original CDs, compiled along with a CD holding the ub3rfied SCP stuff.
Give it a different release name like Freespace 2: Valhalla or something like that and stuff in Derelict, Inferno or maybe a few other campaigns.

ookay, it's a long shot, but here's an idea, to go with yours..

Freespace Anthology..
FS1, Silent Threat(prolly the "new" ST that i've heard about), and Freespace 2, all in the one campaign.
(see the Fs1 - fs2 mod to get what i mean)
one engine, three campaigns.. oodles of freespacy goodness.

with some non-scp campaigns (like Warzone, Derelect, you get the picture) included, as well as a retooled FS2 demo running the demo campaign. to spark interest in the SCP.

[Setekh]

A shame you guys don't get to see the picture. That was one of the best bits.

[JarC]

Hmmm. if game budgets are tenfold these days of what they used to be, and the interrest in space shooters is not all that high (compared to other game types), this means a fs3 will probably only happen (or it's development be ok'd by 'mother') if the expected returns are enough to cover the dev-costs.

Generating interrests by releasing 1&2 as prequels isn't an option I think, especially since it has already been done as white label, unless there's a something added that would lift a tip of the veil on what FS3 will be about. Also nowadays most games are spin-offs from a movie or tv-series, I think most hard-core fans won't like the idea, but seeing as there's still no good counterweight to ST and B5, it could maybe open another source for funding if there was something done in that direction too? Perhaps a DVD-only release which would come with all 3! games as an extra on the disc, perhaps even with a special modder disk added containing all kinds of resources for modders too.  Add to this some kind of contest perhaps of which the best contributions are also included. Or organize something like a public shootout accross the continents, and have the winners be included (either by looks or referred to by their nick) as in-game characters to FS3 when this is beyond the 'what-if' stage. Now that would generate publicity and perhaps enough of a bases to reasonably estimate expected FS3 sales.

[Starks]

Is there any way for me to get a PM of DaveB's e-mail?

[Flipside]

I was thinking 'Free DVD with Full version of Freespace 2 and the Freespace Port - a fan created conversion of the original Freespace 1 game'

Flipside

Of course, I could dream and suggest the FSO with the two main campaigns, but that'd really be setting the targets high for any continuation hehehehehe

[Cyker]

Originally posted by StratComm
For that matter, I don't think anyone is.  They got oversaturated for a while, but I can't actually think of anything out right now that even could make use of a joystick, aside from a couple of realish looking sims.  In my biased opinion, the market is ripe for a new space sim title that doesn't have any kind of persistant world/mmo quality to it.  The storytelling aspect is what makes FS2 so good, and that's a quality desperately lacking in the current generation of games.

Yeah... aside from flight-sims like LO:MAC I'm hard pressed to think of any 'stick-using games that have been released...
StarShatter has been thrown about a few times, but that's the only thing I can think off off the top of my head.

I tried it actually, but it's not my kind of game. Actually preferred IFH... man, if they polished that up a bit that could have easily become a decent commercial game!

[Gloriano]

you know funniest thing about all this we are talking about FS3 again after few years openly:D

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by JarC
Hmmm. if game budgets are tenfold these days of what they used to be, and the interrest in space shooters is not all that high (compared to other game types), this means a fs3 will probably only happen (or it's development be ok'd by 'mother') if the expected returns are enough to cover the dev-costs.

Generating interrests by releasing 1&2 as prequels isn't an option I think, especially since it has already been done as white label, unless there's a something added that would lift a tip of the veil on what FS3 will be about.

Well, it is actually starting to be done now, though..... there's obviously the Ground Control & Tribes releases, but you could maybe point towards the rumoured bundling of (updated) Half Life 1 with it's sequel....

Point of an FS1 & FS2 re-release would be to counter the problem of releasing a sequel so long after the last game - it'd be a way of letting people know what the series is about, and the background story itself, very easily.

Were an FS3 to be released, it'd have to at the very least allude - I think - to the ending of FS2.   Plus it's bloody good publicity.

Oh, and I hadn't seen a White Label game,. IIRC, on the shelves for ages.  Hence my curiousity about whether they owned the rights.  And that FS1+FS2 release didn't include Silent Threat, for god-only-knows what reason.

Obviously very pre-emptive to talk of FS3, though.  But it's nice to daydream

[Krackers87]

well pc gamer puts fan created mods and such on their demo discs, maybe they could put scp and maybe inferno on one.

[Ace]

Well it looks like DS has decided to come to some conclusions from what Mr. Baranec has said here. Some of his conclusions are based on misquotations (i.e. "Volition being overextended" Dave mentioned that the original FS devs were split between various other projects at the moment) but others seem reasonable.

Needless to say, let's still hope for that 40% chance that was unofficially mentioned

[Moonsword]

There's a version of FS1 that was on the shelves that included Silent Treat here in the U.S.  It's what originally got me into Freespace, actually.  I've never, and I mean never, seen FS2 on sale that I can remember.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Ace
Well it looks like DS has decided to come to some conclusions from what Mr. Baranec has said here. Some of his conclusions are based on misquotations (i.e. "Volition being overextended" Dave mentioned that the original FS devs were split between various other projects at the moment) but others seem reasonable.

Needless to say, let's still hope for that 40% chance that was unofficially mentioned

*raises eyebrow*

Where?

[Knight Templar]

Great to here from the king, and that he still knows we're here. Halleluja!

[Thorn]

Originally posted by aldo_14


*raises eyebrow*

Where?

http://forums.avault.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=005531;p=5

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Thorn


http://forums.avault.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=005531;p=5

So.... seems wrong to me, especially as daveb mentioned Volition being bigger than ever before (with reference to the 'people stretched' bit), and also that they'd got a really good deal & relationship with THQ plus a bargaining edge over the Parallax thing if push came to shove.  I have the feeling that the point being made was more that if V made an FS3, it may not necesarrily be the same people as made FS1 & 2.  

Plus what daveb said with regards to the cost of games was emphasising that the financial 'risk' of FS2s development budget - if repeated - was actually far less than many other games developed now (although this could be read in another way).  So I took that as being that THQ could be convinced to buy the license, if the price was right and V made a good enough pitch.

But, then again, we interpret stuff based on our biases / opinions, after all......

[Taristin]

FS3 doesn't have to be made right away. That's what Mr. Smart is forgetting.  I'd be perfectly content waiting a year to 3 years for it, so long as it's in THQ's/Volition's hands.