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Offline Liberator

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Okay, if the Shivans used Capella to create a short-term node anywhere they wanted to go and the Sath is a warship of unparalleled power, maybe we stumbled into a collossal plan to storm the Unknowns "home" system and raze their planet and the Shivans did what they did to expedite their mission, because they didn't have time to "play" with the GTVA for months trying to get to Capella.
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Offline Kie99

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Hmm Interesting:nod:
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Lightspeed

Probably not. With "average crew" I don't mean those that are actually filling vital roles in the ship. They wouldn't know.


I think it's quite possibly they did; trapped on a tin can for several months, in unknown and hostile territory, the very least I would expect are rumours, especially when contact was made with the Shivans.  I'd also expect the weapons officers - however many - would be ordered not to fire on Shivan vessels.

Regardless of what they could guess or not, IMO Bosch's last monologue definately indicates that he intends to take his entire crew with him.

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
If you put it this way: He succeeded as far as getting noticed by the Shivans, and to successfully communicate with them. And all clues we're given indicate they do indeed at least consider(!) listening to what Bosch has to say.


 Insofar as we know, they listened to Bosch long enough, and replied sufficiently, to 'take' him.  I think theres no way you can say that the Shivans didn't just manipulate Bosch as he manipulated the NTF.

The clues that we do have are;
a) he communicated with the Shivans and received enough information to indicate he was 'forming an alliance'
b) Bosch was willing to leave on a Shivan transport and did leave
c) Shivans and NTF crew fought onboard the Iceni

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I think Petrarch would see "nomads searching for a way home" everywhere.


That's not really a very concrete reason for concluding he's wrong, is it?

 

Offline dan87uk

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also is correct, he says 'myself and my crew are ready to scuttle the Iceni and board the shivan transport' which would indicate he origionaly intended to take his entire crew with him
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Offline Kie99

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Originally posted by Liberator
Okay, if the Shivans used Capella to create a short-term node anywhere they wanted to go and the Sath is a warship of unparalleled power, maybe we stumbled into a collossal plan to storm the Unknowns "home" system and raze their planet and the Shivans did what they did to expedite their mission, because they didn't have time to "play" with the GTVA for months trying to get to Capella.


But then why did the Shivans initially send in just 1 sathanas.  If it was a colossal plan and they didn't want to just play with the GTVA they would send in 80 Sathanases straight awayand steamroller the entire GTVA within minutes.
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by kietotheworld


But then why did the Shivans initially send in just 1 sathanas.  If it was a colossal plan and they didn't want to just play with the GTVA they would send in 80 Sathanases straight awayand steamroller the entire GTVA within minutes.


Scout.

 

Offline dan87uk

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they sent the first 1 in to see what was around....well....yeh....a scout basically :D and even one alone managed to 'steamroller' most of the fleet in the area
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Offline Falcon

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I think the Shivans are enjoying the wars they have with the GTVA like it were some sporting event.

Shivan announcer: "And welcome to our 2nd annual 'Great War' deathmatch! In this corner we have our prized Sathanas and in the other corner new ship on the block Colossus! Lets get ready to rumble!"

*Crowd cheers*

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Originally posted by aldo_14


Scout.


Economy of force. They only thought they'd need one. (They almost only did need one.)
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Offline Liberator

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The plan likely called for as many Sath as could be gotten there so they sent one that could be spared.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Charismatic

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Holy *&^$ did i have to read alot. page 4-9 Gawd. Anyways.

Shivan Sathii=warship + star destroyer\science vessle.

What was the green (*&^ again? Something related to supspace but what? Supspace frequencies which caused certian imballances which cauesed the system to go pow-wow? Like harmonics, had to be loud enough.

Id wrather live in C then S, too.

About the missing Kappa wing. Did we get out of SOC b4 the Kappa mission? If so, i think my new idea is, that was our old SOC pals. Snipes and the crew. On their way through konossos and other galixys, then back warning us, with their last remaining fighter, survivor, who was killed.

I remember hearing about a 'greater darkness' shivans are 'symtoms of the bigger problem'. I hear *wispers fs3* was going to be about GTVA learning of the greater plague then the shivans. Maby the last scout\soc\kappa wing guy saw it and tried to warn us 'GET THE (*U^ OUT OF THE NEBULAAAA!'. Is that possible?

And for bosch. I think he left willingly and had Something set up. THe two rakshasa's were escorting his ship maby, not 'stalking' or 'following'? Confirming the, no hostiles, and all clear to jump here, signals.
Bah i forgot what i was going to really say about it, or somethign else. *Cries*

If they tried and suceeded to get to SOL, were done for. Thus battlestar galactica, and bablyon 5, and what was it.. oh i forget. Gtva\humans run like hell to secert secure systems to repopulate b4 we get our @$$e$ wiped clean..
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Offline aldo_14

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Translation please!

 

Offline Falcon

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"Buy Bosch Beer"

You have to read between the lines ;)

 

Offline Lightspeed

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That can be arranged for. :)
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Offline Falcon

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They eat Vasudans :doh:



:p
« Last Edit: January 18, 2005, 06:08:23 pm by 1408 »

 

Offline Kie99

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Originally posted by High Max
If bosch boards the transports, I wonder how he and his crew eat?


They drink Bosch Beer and eat er... Frozen Bosch beer!

Sorry couldn't resist
Good point tho'
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Offline Lightspeed

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Don't ask. Drink.
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Offline Goober5000

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From the HLP FAQ...
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Where did Bosch Beer come from?
One day a humble FreeSpacer known only to us as Max Sterling invented a beverage called "Bosch Beer". "Bosch drinks it, why don’t you?" See this page for more details.

 

Offline Goober5000

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Actually, the community only found out that Bosch Beer existed after Max Sterling had come up with the joke.  Or so I'm told.

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Offline FireCrack

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Personaly, i understand the bosh beer one, but what about space crack?
actualy, mabye not.
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