[KARMA]

yeah do it yourself or stop moaning and just don't use it. Giving suggestions/critics is different than rejecting something at all nitpicking over minimal things.
I may understand arguing over the aspect of the nose (a big change indeed), but you are arguing about a couple of turretts placed offset and a minor change in the fov of some of them. I really hope that you are kidding about that, I may agree that the blind spots should remain the same of the original models, if present, but that's up, and this one could be easiliy fixed.
Hell, the gameplay doesn't change when you make modifications, but only if those modifications affect the way you play. You could even change the number of turretts and their position and don't change AT ALL the gameplay if you do it wisely, preserving the same blind spots and the real effectiveness of the defenses.

[Nico]

Originally posted by KARMA
what I don't like is the inner part of the nose, the bubble. It is too small compared to the rest of the ship, ruining the overall "elegance", and compared to the prow's grey plating it should fill much more than now the space between the dents.

Missed that. Too small? I didn't change it, if I change it, there's gonna be another storm falling on me
More seriously, I was considering lowering the front of it, actually.
edit: like that:

And no, it doesn't require me to move the turret, it's just on another spot on the thing now.

[Bobboau]

put more plates or something in that void n the front, try to make it sort of come together or something. maybe have some sort of extenion from the top part (wich doesn't look like you've done much with)

the ass end is looking sexy thoug, are we gona get some of those big red block engines? that would be so much cooler than the crap V did with them (why the hell did they abandon the big red block engines!? they are easy to make requier virtualy no textureing and look oh so cool)

don't worry about the nay sayers, I got all sorts of crap from people when I made the HTL deimos, and with Shivan ships I think you realy have a lot of room to play with, especaly with the uglier ships.

[Nico]

mmh, well, i'm a fan of the red block engines too ( all my custom fighters have those save for the hydra ), but they would greatly benefit from tru glows, imho. Or that glow bar thing I requested, at least, in lack of something better.

I've narrowed the opening on the front.

How do you like the bent down "head"?

[Turambar]

remember this fearful shape

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Nico
3 people saying they like it only two hours after I posted, that's enough to make me think I'm right
There, a pic from the back, just coz I liked that shot:

Is it just me, or does the back of the Moloch look like the underside of a bigass Shivan Herc Mk. II?

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by Turambar


remember this fearful shape

Take note that the Deimos in that pic has 4 extra dual-turret mounts (the sides of the darker grey area) .

[Nico]

There, I extended some kind of plateform between the two jaws, and I reduced the gap between them:



No more opening on the central missile turret.

[Bobboau]

yeah, that looks better, it still has the added detail without changeing the shape too much.

[NGTM-1R]

Okay.

I take it all back.

Ownage.

[Nico]

glad to hear, hem, read ^^

Now, save for the engines, I don't know what to do with the rear, and that's bothersome.
And damn it's 6.20AM, I forgot to go to bed

[Trivial Psychic]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
Okay.
I take it all back.
Ownage.

Agreed!

[deep_eyes]

great not put it in game!

[Bobboau]

wow you wen't from it's **** it it owns in like one minor change

[FireCrack]

Hmm, the thing about the moloch is that unlike all other shivan ships (fs2) it's spike are pointing backwards not forwards. Now, look at ythe picture showing the back (4 pics up) and imagine that as the front. I'm not suggesting anything, but it's cooler.

And ownage btw.

[WMCoolmon]

Hmm...

Reverse it, make some slight texture modifications, and you've got yourself a new ship. (The SCv Hcolom?)

[Singh]

[Black Wolf]

Nose looks better now.

[KARMA]

yeah much better
I meant that, disconnecting the bubble from the prows plating, it was smaller since originally you didn't feel it as a standalone but as part of a major structure covered by that nose grey plating. The result was like a men with a big body but a very small head ( someone remember the film beetlejuice?).
But it seem much much better now

[Cabbie]

Major improvement, the first changes are good but this is perfect.