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The last book was racist?  How so?  I don't believe that Lewis was making any reference to the Calormenes as a whole as being bloodthirsty or evil.  In fact, their captain in that book didn't seem to have any faith in Tash at all; he was just in it for the military and financial gains.  The soldier with the truest faith was the one who made it through in the end.  I don't think the comparison with Lord of the Rings really holds; not only did Lewis and Tolkien have completely different motives, and indeed audiences, for writing their works as a whole (Tolkien despised allegory, for instance :p), those specific scenes seem to be created for different purposes.  Lord of the Rings is far more on an epic scale; Tolkien fought in World War I himself, and I think in the case of the Southrons, he was trying to convey the idea that the soldiers who fight in wars don't necessarily know or care much about the objectives of their masters, and their own ideas may often be deluded or twisted from the truth.  In the case of Lewis, keeping in line with his whole idea of faith, I think he was trying to convey that those who intentionally commit evil acts in the name of a higher power earn evil in return, while those who live their lives in a good and noble fashion receive their reward at the end.  I always thought that Aslan's line to the good Calormene soldier, in which he says, "Whenever you did good acts in the name of Tash, you were actually doing them for me; whenever someone commits evil in my name, they are really doing so for Tash," was a very unique concept; it helped to tie a lot of that last book together.

For me, what made that book so special is that I think it is the greatest suggestion of what heaven could be like that I have ever read.  A place where you meet all of the good people you've ever known, all of the great figures of the past.  A place like this world, but so much more real and true that it's almost impossible to imagine.  That image has remained with me for 11 years; I think it's truly a wonderful way to end the story.

I greatly enjoyed Voyage of the Dawn Treader myself; the idea of going out and exploring to the ends of the Earth, and finding all kinds of fantastic things along the way, appealed to me as a child, and in a very real sense, it still does for me now.

 

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Personally, I think 'the Last Battle' was my favourite although it got rather depressing at times, what with all the deaths (which, I know, were necessary). I think one of the great things about the Narnia Chronicles is that they work on so many different levels, as children's fantasy, Christian allegory, moral parables, so on and so forth. Also, Lord of the Rings was quite difficult for me to read when I was, like, 10; but Narnia works for pretty much all age groups.
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Sweeeeeeet... downloading now. Yeah, sorry Coolmon, the Dawn Treader was my favourite. :) It's a great fictional world - I found it really drew me in.
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Narnia... Disney... Talking Lions...

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All English geezers in the 30's were racist, sexist, and whatever - it's just how things WERE back then, there's no point in trying to read to much into it...:rolleyes:
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I remember reading up to somewhere in the middle of the 3rd/4th book, I found it boring, then again I was like....6, maybe 7 I should see if I can dig it up again...
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Wow... doesn't look as cinematically epic as LOTR but it destroys the BBC version. Can't wait till December.

 

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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Wow... doesn't look as cinematically epic as LOTR...


No, but then again it never was. LOTR is about peoples, Narnia is about people.
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Whoa, the trailer does look good... I'll see it.
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:lol:

(By the way, what exactly is Turkish Delight, anyway? :p)

 

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Just had a LOTR:EE marathon - LCD projector, Logitech Z-680's, the whole 9 yards - all day yesterday, and since it was in honor of someone's birthday, people were coming in and out the whole time. In-between showings we screened the Narnia trailer. Ended up watching the whole thing about 5 or 6 times. I think people were more excited about that than about LOTR. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Wow...wish I was there :)

 

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I watched a bit of Master & Commander on a £22,000 Vidikron projector yesterday - nice picture...:yes:
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Yeah, I hope they don't make us wait half a year for this to come out in Australia. It's Disney though, so it shouldn't take too long... unlike some of the international films that came out last year.
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