[-Norbert-]

A turret on a one-man fighter?
Sounds pretty strange to me.
Is there a way to link the turret to the other weapon bank, kind of like back in archimedian dynasty (Schleichfahrt), where you could let the turret fire on it's own or synchronise it to your main weapon, firing both straight forward?
That would be pretty cool if that's possible

And my complements for the two ships they look great!

Oh btw, is the Halik able to fly in atmosphere, since it has wings that would otherwise serve only to give it a bigger profile and thus making it easier to hit?

[I_E_Maverick]

i think there is no way to link the turret to a gunbank.

i finished another ship that was a long time in my hands the narn freighter, modeled by tomcat. if he is near: i hope you like what i did with it

[IPAndrews]

  The Narn Transport! Finally, after all this time. You've done a particularly good job of the panelling on this ship by the way. Any chance you can seperate that cargo container from the back of the Narn transport so we can use it as a seperate Narn cargo container model?

[I_E_Maverick]

Any chance you can seperate that cargo container from the back of the Narn transport so we can use it as a seperate Narn cargo container model?

thats no problem, a job of a few seconds only
i am glad you like it! the paneling was no job by me in that case, just the usual pattern i use as a base for all of my ships. i think it is just the size, the map is 1024x1024. i hope that is ok for a freighter.

[Trivial Psychic]

Something about the Narn freighter.  I think it also has a pair of fixed primaries like the Skylark or Lintira.  They're just unboard of the forward booms, like on the fighter.  You can see them firing in Season 2 "And Now For A Word", both during an attack against a Centauri freighter early in the episode, and later during the fire-fight.

[I_E_Maverick]

i have no such weapons on my ref. maybe these are 2 different versions. i can do a version with 2 primaries as well, shouldnt be much of a problem

[0rph3u5]

  finally the narn transport... and what kind of one  ....
 
*checks his lists*
I only need four more models/ships and I'm covered with all I need for a while...

[Trivial Psychic]

i have no such weapons on my ref. maybe these are 2 different versions. i can do a version with 2 primaries as well, shouldnt be much of a problem

Do you have access to the episode I mentioned?

[aipz]

Some thoughts on the
Tiger StarFury :
manouverability: good
durability: light
speed: 80 + afterburner
weapons: 40mm pulse
                  27 mm railgun (turret)
                  missles (I'm leaving this one up to TBP team)

The ship is overall slightly weaker than Aurora Mk I, but definetly stronger than Zephyr...
(able to fight with younger races fighters effectively)

What do you think about it?

[I_E_Maverick]

i would make it faster, as it has has the same enginelayout as the aurora except 2 big rocket engines at the back, so more speed but less manouvererability than the aurora.
the rest sounds good imo

[Prophet]

Those wingtip engines are bigger in the Aurora. Thus I'd wager that its at least the same amount of thrust in four enginges, than two bigger but older ones.

I doubt EA would modify the design to decrase speed. More likely the removed the big engines because their knowledge in zero-g engine construction had increased so that they could fit the same amount of thurst in to the wingtips without sacrificing manouverabilty and speed. Even their heavy attack fighter (Badger) uses the same four engine configuration, even when it likely is heavier than the Tiger.


Anyone else feeling that the turret is in a wrong model?
First of all it is in a weird place. You'd think it would be backwards, or even forwards. But what particular reason is there for it to cover the belly? And I doubt its effectiveness since it's on a one man fighter. Since the pilot most certainly has no time to control it effectively (If he could, there would be more small ships/fighters with turrets). And since it being a turret with questionable effectiveness, it shouldn't have a weapon the requires ammo to function. As I understand, rail guns depend on their limited supply of ammo

[IPAndrews]

You'd think it would be backwards, or even forwards. But what particular reason is there for it to cover the belly?of ammo

A game engine limitation is that turrets must point straight up or, as in this case, straight down. Given a big enough FOV though the turret's firing arc could still cover a bit of the fore and aft.

[Trivial Psychic]

Actually, its only the multi-part turrets that suffer from that.  The Badger has a rear-facing turret, but its a single-part turret so it works.

As for the Tiger, I'm giving it supperior maneuverability but poorer top speed.  My research suggests that the Tiger had good maneuverability because of its more compact mass.  The poorer top speed is because there are only 2 main engines on the Tiger and 4 on the Aurora.  I'm also gonna try out the 30mm weapon as a player-primary as well.  I'll also see if I can create something to work as a rail gun for the ventral turret.

[IPAndrews]

It's a single part and it points down? Oh well that is a bit wierd then .

[I_E_Maverick]

it is a multipart turret.

[Trivial Psychic]

Correct.  I only stated that because you handn't specified that it was only multi-part turrets that have that problem.  I like to poke holes in blanket statements.   The Tiger's turret is a multi-part, so it can only face up or down successfully.  The Badger's is a single-part so it doesn't have that problem.

[Prophet]

Right... Now that you guys got the basics figured out, my statement still stands. IMO it's a silly place for a turret, be it a single or quadra-part turret.

About the Tiger maneuverability... Since its longer than Aurora, wouldn't it have poorer pitch and yaw performance but better roll? I don't see why anything in it would be better than in Aurora. Its an inferioir design.

[aipz]

*NOTE*
Good manouverabilty is that of Badger
so the Tiger shouldn't have anything better than this - Aurora has better engine configuration and thus is more agile

Speed propably - 80-90 - by changing energy you can still get a decent speed... + afterburner
It shouldn't be a Formula 1 racing car 

That turret is propably weird - I have to agree if the game engine limits it's performance drastically...
It would be better as a fixed gunbank...

[Prophet]

That turret is propably weird - I have to agree if the game engine limits it's performance drastically...
It would be better as a fixed gunbank...

A good idea. A fixed bank with the railgun. And give it limited ammo count. So it would work as a heavy weapon for use against big targets. Kind of like a predecessor for the 60mm (or whatever it is) in the badger.

[-Norbert-]

I agree that the Aurora should have better maneuverability than the Tiger.
The Aurora has it's main engines, the one giving the most thrust, farther from the center than the Tiger, which should gives less forward but more spinning thrust than having the engines near the center like the Tiger.
So even when the Aurora and Tiger utilize the same technology, the Aurora should be more maneuverable because of the better design.
And now calculate in, that the Aurora has more advanced engines....