Author Topic: My "little" WIP Topic  (Read 125680 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline 0rph3u5

  • 211
  • Oceans rise. Empires fall.
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
A good idea. A fixed bank with the railgun. And give it limited ammo count. So it would work as a heavy weapon for use against big targets. Kind of like a predecessor for the 60mm (or whatever it is) in the badger.

the tiger was build for space-superiority like the aurora.. so please drop the idea of heavy weaps... but maybe we turn that turret into some chaingun-like primary...
"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

==================

"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

"...because they are not Dragons."

 

Offline Prophet

  • 210
  • The know-it-all
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
the tiger was build for space-superiority like the aurora.. so please drop the idea of heavy weaps... but maybe we turn that turret into some chaingun-like primary...
I didn't mean "heavy" as in huge damage. But a decent damage, a few hundred rounds and a high firerate. And since it's a railgun, it could have a high subsys damage. So it's not overpowering because of the limited ammo, and not really dreadful when it comes to pure damage. But would be usefull still when strafing those dilgari warships. And using short controlled bursts to disarm them :nod:
And give it a "huge" flag so the AI don't go wasting those ammo on 'roids.

Though a chaingun would still be one helluva destructive weapon in space, so there wouln't be much difference... But calling it a railgun lets us put some cool trails on those shots :D


Was there a heavy fighter in the times of the Tiger? Im thinking Tiger was more of a multipurpose fighter, like the Aurora is (it has been used effectively against large targets more often than not).
I'm not saying anything. I did not say anything then and I'm not saying anything now. -Dukath
I am not breaking radio silence just cos' you lot got spooked by a dead flying ****ing cow. -Sergeant Harry Wells/Dog Soldiers


Prophet is walking in the deep dark places of the earth...

  

Offline 0rph3u5

  • 211
  • Oceans rise. Empires fall.
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
the tiger was build for space-superiority like the aurora.. so please drop the idea of heavy weaps... but maybe we turn that turret into some chaingun-like primary...
I didn't mean "heavy" as in huge damage. But a decent damage, a few hundred rounds and a high firerate. And since it's a railgun, it could have a high subsys damage. So it's not overpowering because of the limited ammo, and not really dreadful when it comes to pure damage. But would be usefull still when strafing those dilgari warships. And using short controlled bursts to disarm them :nod:
And give it a "huge" flag so the AI don't go wasting those ammo on 'roids.

Though a chaingun would still be one helluva destructive weapon in space, so there wouln't be much difference... But calling it a railgun lets us put some cool trails on those shots :D


Was there a heavy fighter in the times of the Tiger? Im thinking Tiger was more of a multipurpose fighter, like the Aurora is (it has been used effectively against large targets more often than not).

I objected against the term of a "railgun" cause we already have weaps like this mounted on the Olympus and Warlock... adn there they serve primarly as AC guns...(no olympus I'd ingame used it for something different yet)
and we could use an high energy drain for that chaingun so it does not become too destructive... maybe it fires 400 rounds/sec but the tiger's generators can't support firing for longer that 5 secs

to fighters in the "Tiger time":
The Mitchell-Hyundyne SA-18 Tiger Starfury was the first of a new evolutionary line of space fighters, conceptual ancestor of the Nova and Aurora Starfuries.
This light interceptor was one of the protagonists of the Dilgar war: compact, nimble and heavily armed, was a real match for the Dilgar's Thorun fighters, and gave a significant contribution to the victory.

I too would put the tiger into an interceptor/all rounder roll but would leave it out of capship combat... what we have of the dilgar navy up until now is the Sekhmet which is nothing more than an support cruiser same as a midwinter....
and if you have send fighters against it in any mission you have to know that it is taking you fighters really quick if not stormed with masses...
you may try "Sword of the Empire" I'm going to post tomorrow (although I'm using Aurora Mk I. to replace the missing tigers) to see what's my point
"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nyrissa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

==================

"I am Curiosity, and I've always wondered what would become of you, here at the end of the world." - The Guide/The Curious Other, Othercide

"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

"...because they are not Dragons."

 

Offline Prophet

  • 210
  • The know-it-all
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
I objected against the term of a "railgun" cause we already have weaps like this mounted on the Olympus and Warlock... adn there they serve primarly as AC guns...(no olympus I'd ingame used it for something different yet)
and we could use an high energy drain for that chaingun so it does not become too destructive... maybe it fires 400 rounds/sec but the tiger's generators can't support firing for longer that 5 secs
To call it a railgun or chaingun makes little differene to me. But forget the energy dependency. We can have ammo counters in the HUD in these modern days you know. And Tiger cant carry unlimited amounts of ammo.

I too would put the tiger into an interceptor/all rounder roll but would leave it out of capship combat... what we have of the dilgar navy up until now is the Sekhmet which is nothing more than an support cruiser same as a midwinter....
and if you have send fighters against it in any mission you have to know that it is taking you fighters really quick if not stormed with masses...
Fighters can never manage cap ships alone. Dilgari or others. They always go in with capital ship support, that applies to Tiger and newer fighters. Aurora has proved its capabilities against large targets when in supporting role. Tiger, during the old days, likely manged to fill the same role Aurora does quite effectively. And calling Tiger a "light interceptor" is relative. What is Aurora then? It's not heavier than Tiger is it?

In canon there are no dedicated fighters. They are all multipurpose and space-superiority fighters. And they all have the same job; to defend friendly targets and to execute tactical strikes (ship systems) against large hostiles targets.
I'm not saying anything. I did not say anything then and I'm not saying anything now. -Dukath
I am not breaking radio silence just cos' you lot got spooked by a dead flying ****ing cow. -Sergeant Harry Wells/Dog Soldiers


Prophet is walking in the deep dark places of the earth...

 

Offline aipz

  • 28
  • War,war never changes...
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Quote
objected against the term of a "railgun" cause we already have weaps like this mounted on the Olympus and Warlock... adn there they serve primarly as AC guns...(no olympus I'd ingame used it for something different yet)
and we could use an high energy drain for that chaingun so it does not become too destructive... maybe it fires 400 rounds/sec but the tiger's generators can't support firing for longer that 5 secs
This lower gun shouldn't be energy dependant as it  fires projectiles - it has a simple magazine of rounds just as modern aircraft guns...
Besides having this type of weapon would be an interesting break of all those "unexhaustible" energy cannons...

Quote
I too would put the tiger into an interceptor/all rounder roll but would leave it out of capship combat... what we have of the dilgar navy up until now is the Sekhmet which is nothing more than an support cruiser same as a midwinter....
and if you have send fighters against it in any mission you have to know that it is taking you fighters really quick if not stormed with masses...
Actually all fighters of EA are all rounders...
Only the Badger is dedicated antiship craft which in which the creators sacraficed the manouverability for sheer firepower...
Most of fighters in TBP doesn't have a chance to take out an advanced capship in small numbers alone  :sigh:
So they have to cooperate with other types of craft...
Or storm en masse and suffer painful losses...
"Another fellow pilot"

 

Offline rcrph

  • 25
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Are these vessels complete with the appropriate ships.tbl and weapons.tbl and are they available for download and immediate use?  I've been skimming this topic and may have missed it. BTW, I'm awestruck with the abilities of the B5 community.  :nod:
Better living through chemistry

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
You'll have to wait till TBP 3.4 most likely. The team like to push a bunch of new models out at once (Gotta agree with them that it's the best approach too).
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

 

Offline Col. Fishguts

  • voodoo doll
  • 211
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
^^ What he said
"I don't think that people accept the fact that life doesn't make sense. I think it makes people terribly uncomfortable. It seems like religion and myth were invented against that, trying to make sense out of it." - D. Lynch

Visit The Babylon Project, now also with HTL flavour  ¦ GTB Rhea

 

Offline rcrph

  • 25
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Understood.  The quality of the Project has been so outstanding that it's well worth the wait for the next incarnation.  :nod:
Better living through chemistry

 

Offline IPAndrews

  • Disgruntled Customer
  • 212
  • This site stole my work
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
The new models added so far are great.
Be warned: This site's admins stole 100s of hours of my work. They will do it to you.

 

Offline aipz

  • 28
  • War,war never changes...
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
I have to agree with IP Andrews here...

With so many models already done I've exhausted my wishlist completely!

I guess with 3.4 we will propably call TBP "complete" in terms of canon craft :yes:
"Another fellow pilot"

 
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Now to just think of campaign/mission ideas.

 

Offline IPAndrews

  • Disgruntled Customer
  • 212
  • This site stole my work
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
I guess with 3.4 we will propably call TBP "complete" in terms of canon craft :yes:

I would concur - if we had a Vorlon Dreadnaught. I do hope Stithe can somehow manage to find the time to finish this model soon because it's a very high profile one. The mainstay of the Vorlon fleet. I don't think the Vorlons can be considered complete until we have it, and therefore neither can TBP.
Be warned: This site's admins stole 100s of hours of my work. They will do it to you.

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

  • 212
  • Snoop Junkie
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Stithe has had a promotion, but he indicated to me that he'll be able to bring a PC to work and work on models in spare moments.
The Trivial Psychic Strikes Again!

 

Offline IPAndrews

  • Disgruntled Customer
  • 212
  • This site stole my work
Re: My "little" WIP Topic
Pass my sincere congrats onto Stithe when you speak to him next.
Be warned: This site's admins stole 100s of hours of my work. They will do it to you.