[StratComm]

The one in MV_models is 24-bit, isn't it

Is it on the Herc model in Galemp's detailmodel pack?

[redmenace]

the detail pack is 24-bit. But fixed it is. I just made it a targa to keep to quality in the 24bit pcx.

[StratComm]

I wouldn't have bothered, as it's a LOD1 map.  But ok

[Cobra]

'ey, where's the detailmodels.vp? i can't find it.

[redmenace]

Its pretty much redundant IMO. Just download the models vp.

But here you go http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/hlp/hosted//fsport/mv_detailmodels.rar

[Freespace Freak]

Um, I'm having a problem.  I noticed my models in FSPort for the Levy/Fenris wasn't as good as in the mediavps.  So I downloaded this, and my Fenris looks fine, but my Leviathan looks old school.

Here's the Fenris...


...and here's the Leviathan.


I don't know if you can tell in these low res pictures, but the Fenris has the spiffy new models, but the Leviathan doesn't.  Now in regular FS2 with the mediavps the leviathan looks HTL.  How do I get it to look all nice in spiffy in FSPort?

[Vasudan Admiral]

This should probably go in the port forum, but it looks to me like the port doesn't use HTL models. Assuming it will actually work with the port (no reason to think otherwise, but it's possible I suppose), use the latest Media VP Levvy model, or download it in this pack here.

To keep compatability with the port though, you'll need to rename the Levvy model from 'cruiser01x.pof' to 'cruiser01b.pof'.
Hope that helps.

[Freespace Freak]

Nope.  Still the same effect.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Where did you put the files? Not being familier with the mod directory system, I'm not really sure if the files should go in he ports mod folder or the main FS data folder. I would have thought that putting the files in the main data folder would override anywhere else, so is that what you did?

[Zacam]

FSport is still calling in the ships.tbl to use the original cruiser model. You have to make a *-shp.tbm to tell it to use the HTL model just like the VP's tell FS2 to use the HTL.

That is, assuming you're running FSPort without also running the mediavp's. If you are telling the launcher to load both the FSPort AND the mediavp's and it's still doing it, then I have no idea what's going on.

[Vasudan Admiral]

The HTL model is perfectly compatible with the original model though, so that won't be the problem if the HTL model is in the models folder, because it will override the one in the VP.

[karajorma]

Any files you install to override the ports data (Whether you follow Zacam's or VA's advice) should go in the FS1Port's Data folder (Well actually in the correct subfolder really. Models for VA's suggestion, Tables for Zacam's).

You might have been able to get away with putting a TBM in Freespace2\Data or Freespace2\Mediavps\Data but it's not the best solution. Any models going in Freespace2\Data or Freespace2\Mediavps\Data would be overridden by the port so it will achieve very little to do that.

Zacam's solution is the better one of the two BTW as any changes to the Leviathan maps would automatically propogate to FS1Port. It is however the harder one to impliment if you don't know how to table.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Oh I see, so you set the table to point to the levvy model used by the media VP. I thought he was refering to the fenris model - my bad.
Yeah that'd work just as well, but if he's already got the levvy model and maps in the port's data folder, then all else he need do is rename the pof file to get it working.

Cos unless someone else is doing them, there won't be any more Fenris/Levvy map updates anyway (well.....with the possible exception of bumpmaps.)

It's an easy fix either way though.

[Zacam]

For FSPort, there is one "replacement" for the Leviathan labled Cruiser01b. the Fenris calls to cruiser01 (default. The levy and fenris in FS1 both called to the same if I recall correctly). You need to change either the name of the mediavp cruiser01x.pof to cruiser01b.pof and copy that renamed file into FSPort\Data\Models (and then copy it's relevant textures and maps to the appropriate locations), or change the FSPort ships.tbl (or create a levy-shp.tbm) that tells it to load cruiser01x.pof instead of cruiser01b.pof. The levy model in Port just distinguishes a different look for comparision and it's not actually an HTL model in the same fashion as the ones in the VP's are. If you're using the media VP's there can be an issue of pre-dominance. Some setups will see the VP levy in place, others will see the Ports levy.

Personally, I think the VP's levy should be labled cruiser01b instead of cruiser01x, but that's just my opinion.

[Freespace Freak]

For FSPort, there is one "replacement" for the Leviathan labled Cruiser01b. the Fenris calls to cruiser01 (default. The levy and fenris in FS1 both called to the same if I recall correctly). You need to change either the name of the mediavp cruiser01x.pof to cruiser01b.pof and copy that renamed file into FSPort\Data\Models (and then copy it's relevant textures and maps to the appropriate locations).

Yes!  That worked!   That should be put in the readme for the HTL Fenris/Leviathan, or we just put it in the next release for the fsport so people won't have to do any work, they just install the fsport and viola!  Awesome looking Fenris and Leviathian.  I also noticed that if I put all the adveffects into the fsport folder, I get the cool warpout effects and newer models and textures as compared to the standard fsport vps, but installing the model and texture vps doesn't do anything.

[Zacam]

That's because the mediavp's models and textures are mainly geared towards the FS2 ships, not FS1, which is what the Port is for.

Well, unless you're me, but that'd just be mean.

[ARSPR]

I don't understand what's happening with your FSPort installation.

If you make Port use MediaVPS (through secondarylist in MOD.INI) you will get all MediaVPS additions. And as MediaVPs has a tabular TBM file which sets Levy as Cruiser01x.pof you will use the model within mv_model despite Port's ships.tbl (which sets cruiser01b.pof). IIRC, tbm files have always greater priority than tbl even if they are in a lower priority vp.

(You only get Port models when there is a POF file which overwrite MediaVPs ones, as Lucifer as example).

[Zacam]

ARSPR: You are correct in that such is what _should_ be happening. However, that is not always the case. XP likes having this strange behavior about how it sorts files with "-" and "_" in their name and that directly relates to how it loads them in memory order. In 7 clean reinstalls of FS SCP + MediaVPs + FSPort I've gotten 3 different results. *shrugs*

That and it was never ascertained wether or not Freespace Freak is playing FSPort in conjunction with using the MediaVP's (inspite of obviously having them present), so I geared my reply to cover all the bases (well, the ones not covered by VA, naturally).....or maybe I just geared my reply for the purposes of pontification, which shall now abruptly cease.

[Freespace Freak]

Er, not to sound like a total ignoramus, but, I have no idea wtf a -*shp.tbm is or what it does or how to make it or how to find it or anything.      I just threw all of the mediavps into the fsport folder, advaffect, models, textures, etc.  The only one that seemed to have any affect at all was the advaffects.vp, at least at this point.  I'll see what happens when I install the 3.6.8 Media vps now that I got 3.6.9 working now.  I hope it doesn't crash.   

[Kaboodles]

You're supposed to put the media vps into a folder called "mediavps" in the main FS2 folder