I have a Saitek Cyborg 3D (according to the lettering), and I would not recommend it. Whilst it's got the bells and whistles (force feedback, throttle, hat, etc), it's made of cheap tacky plastic, has a very unresponsive trigger with no 'give', a very fat base (i.e. making it uncomfortable to use unless you sit high on your chair, which is a pain with lower down monitors i.e. mine)), badly positioned throttle and base buttonbs (i.e. it's effectively 2 handed) and the actual stick just feels 'wrong' (nowhere near enough resistance, too springy, too light, not ergonomic). I had an old Wingman Extreme joystick (I only stopped using it as it was the old style connector, which my PC no longer has), and that kicked arse.