[Dan1]

Any updates to this?  Like fixes I suggested or anything?

[Dan1]

Yeah. On 2 of the training missions, you can't proceed because no matter what, you can't satisfy the objectives.

What 2 missions?  I just tried them again and I beat them all *even that really hard one where you have to beat 2 leviathans and one fenris..or 3 leviathans.  Although I have not downloaded an updated version in awhile.  The first 3 training missions are pretty hard...the last one (bombing run one) is pretty easy and I actually had to work to lose it...like running into a ship as it jumped in.

[Backslash]

Doing my best to help with the progress-obstructing bugs, but some of these I can't reproduce, including the training missions problems.  Do try an April CVS if you can.

Mission names and/or numbers would help a lot -- as I've been hopping around not in campaign order testing stuff, "that mission when the support ship in the nebula" etc is kinda hard to remember or track down.

Please test the problem missions with this:  http://www.qeyleb.net/files/Revenge.rar  I've fixed quite a few things but it's by no means complete, and I forget which particular files I fixed so I packed everything up.  Work still in progress, of course.  Unzip to your Revenge folder (or a new folder, for testing).  You don't need ANYTHING else in your Revenge folder.  The techroom and -allslev is your friend.

>Mehrpack: yeah the first page hasn't been updated, but I'm guessing Turalyon is busy.  Real life bites from time to time.  His link with the proper table files is http://home.arcor.de/son-goku/Revenge-Translation.rar, but that hasn't been updated since the end of last month.

[Mehrpack]

hi,
@Backslash: i know, we all have a RL and sometimes, time is a resource that are rare like diamonds.
so its was only a question, not a reproach.

Mehrpack

[Dan1]

2 things.

1. I DL/ed and am using the latest CVS build for the SCP (April 20something one) and it has stopped some of the random crashes in some of the missions I noted. 

2. Thanks for the work Backslash,  I'll try those out as soon as I can.

[neoterran]

Thanks Backslash, trying those out !

[neoterran]

This is a kickass campaign. The fact it has 88 missions is pretty much out of control.

[Tyrian]

This is probably a little too nit-picky...But some of the weapon names and damage ratings aren't translated in the loadout screen.  Some of the weapons are obvious and don't need to be translated, but it would help on some of the newer guns and missiles to know the names and how much damage they do.

[Dan1]

This is probably a little too nit-picky...But some of the weapon names and damage ratings aren't translated in the loadout screen.  Some of the weapons are obvious and don't need to be translated, but it would help on some of the newer guns and missiles to know the names and how much damage they do.

It's just kinda guess hit and miss.  I've done this campaign 3x and I still don't know what all the weapons do.  Although 2x beam cannons is just a waste.

[Tyrian]

OK, I finally did it.  I translated the new weapons (the ones I've come across, at least) into English. 

Slashes denote new lines.

Weapon names:
     GTW Teron SL-7 / Shieldbreaker Cannon / Special Issue / Level 8 Shield Damage
     GTW Zetor HL-2 / Standard Issue - Second Generation Subach
     GTW-R41 Railgun Prototype / Shield Penetrator / Anti-Bomber Cannon
     GTM MX6-A Gatling Rocket / Dumbfire Rocket System (I know it says "Fire & Forget" but they really are dumbfire...I tested them myself.)
     GTM-23 Shark Missile / Second Generation Harpoon
     GTM-02 Cobra Rocket / Special Issue / Anti-Bomb Rocket (These are used to shoot down bombs, not bombers.)
     GTM-10A Sledgehammer Cluster Bomb / Bomber Suppressant
     GTM-813 Cyclops II Torpedo / Special Issue / Anti-Cruiser Torpedo
     GTM-X99 Nova Bomb Experimental Prototype / Ultra High Yield Antimatter Torpedo / Extreme Damage

That's everything so far.  I didn't bother with the weapons we all know and love.   
I know these aren't exact.  I changed some of the descriptions 'cause they didn't translate too well or weren't quite right.  (No offense to the maker or translator.)  Not bad, considering the only German I know it "Ich heisse Tyrian."  (My name is Tyrian.)   

EDIT:  These aren't literal translations.  I had to take a few creative liberties on these.  My knowledge of German is quite limited...  Sorry in advance if I offended the creator by making this list. 

[aceofspades]

Don't worry, the only german I know is "Reich". It's also my last name. In fact, I'm technically the third Reich. Which is an ironic name for a jew.

[Mehrpack]

hi,
@aceofspades: thats a little bit offtopic *g* but "reich" doesnt have only the meaning of empire.
here can you look what it mean too:
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=reich&relink=on

@tyrian: the zetor HL-2 and the shark missle are the successor of the old varaint.
but the rest look good.

Mehrpack

[Tyrian]

@Mehrpack -- Fixed.   

[neoterran]

fixed.... where ?

[Tyrian]

fixed.... where ?

Don't ask...I don't even remember...Something with the weapon translations...

Note to self:  Spacecrack is bad for the memory...

[neoterran]

It's confusing. not to mention the revenge_translation(Retail) and revenge-translation(SCP) versions.

[Tyrian]

@High Max -- He is working alone on this.  I just chose to post that due to the fact some people didn't know what some of the new weapons did.   

[ARSPR]

Hi, Finally I've just downloaded this mod (Backslash's version) and started playing with it and I've noticed what can be a FSOpen bug.

In the first mission, where you escort Freighters through an asteroid field, the dialog says that BETA WING is supposed to cover freighters from asteroids while you attack Sentry Guns. But with newest FSOpen builds the ships that are guarding any other ship doesn't engage incoming asteroids, (I've also checked with FSPort's sixth mission where you protect GTD Galatea with Alpha 2).

I don't have retail FS2 anymore so I can't check if this is the right "official" behaviour. Please, can anyone check this within Retail? (Just command all ships to protect the first freighter and look what happens).

(If this is finally a bug, maybe this can be also related with a bug about the performance drop within the asteroids storms I mantised and Backslash, among others, has been working about).

[Backslash]

Confirmed, retail does make guarding wings engage asteroids.  And , they go at it like maniacs, launching ALL their missiles like crazy.  Ok, if this isn't Mantised already, go ahead and do so.  I don't think it's related to the bug I'm looking at; that just involves calculation of time-to-hit, which turret code uses, and the targetbox showing "Impact in 5.7 s".  But who knows, I'll double check.  Pretty busy this week though.

Why is it that quite often, in the 4th mission of Chapter one where you bring Makami to the Titan, the Nelson docks with it and it self destructs? I looked in the events and it said that the Nelson disabled itself when it docked then it self destructed. What is going on here?

Well you kinda answered your own question... for some reason there's an event that says self destruct.  Remove it (you can even do this with Notepad) and it works fine as far as I can tell.

I was just flying the mission called conference. I think it is #23. Problem is, this time around, no matter what, the loadout screen only gives me an extremly fast Ulysses and no weapons as a choice. This won't work. Even when the support gives me weapons after it docks with me. This ship choice isn't good for this mission and is only meant for the Andro Terrans. I know this is a mission problem because the other missions give me weapons and ships. Can someone fix the event progression errors and this mission's error pronto or do we have to wait to see if Turalyon comes back first?

Conference is mission 22a.  Sorry, can't reproduce this problem -- the loadout screen works fine for me in this mission.  Please double check that you do NOT have the root_fs2.vp in your Revenge mod folder, and that you do have ships.tbl and weapons.tbl in Revenge\data\tables but NOT Freespace's data\tables.  (Your mod folder name may vary.)  And if you have already tried all this, sorry, I hope not but it might be a pilot bug.  Just in case, post (attach) your 022a-Revenge.fs2 file, maybe yours is messed up somehow.

[Tyrian]

Found another bug...(You must be getting sick of this)...In the mission Hold Position (I can't think of the number), the Sathanas jumps in.  I go to disarm its forward beams, but when I destroy the first one, it dumps me back to the desktop.  I'm not entirely sure what's causing it...

EDIT:  Updated my weapons translation post.

2ND EDIT:  In the campaign, two weapons are mentioned, the Quantum Gun and the Blackstar.  The Blackstar I have used in the "Captain" training missions.  However, neither of these are available for selection in the campaign, even though one of the briefings states the Quantum Gun would be available as a weapon to mount on bombers.  Is this part of the campaign?