[Fury]

In light of the recent Wing Commander happenings and our poll to create a dedicated Wing Commander board, I decided to post a list of the most important Wing Commander fan-projects.

• Wing Commander: Secret Ops (Required for Unknown Enemy and Standoff)
• Wing Commander Privateer: Remake
• Wing Commander Privateer: Gemini Gold
• Wing Commander: Unknown Enemy
• Wing Commander: Standoff

I hope you enjoy these fine games.

[Sarafan]

Do you know of any site with information about the series (story,etc)? I really dont know much about WC (in thruth, nothing) and would like to get to know about it.

[Fury]

CIC's background section is probably a good place to start, as is wikipedia.

[achtung]

I'm assuming WC isn't as freely available as FS.  As in, it's not abandonware?

[Fury]

There are several titles in Home of the Underdogs. But WC1-5 are not abandonware.

[Harbinger of DOOM]

YES! ANOTHER FREE GAME IN MY COLLECTION!
*clicks download button repeatedly*
Lol

[Kazan]

WC1-5 are virtually abandonware.. give EA a few more years and they'll be abandonware and the SFCS genre will officially be dead

[Polpolion]

[n00b] Why did the Space Shooter genre die again? [/n00b]

[Kazan]

because Electronics Arts and Interplay are stupid

[Getter Robo G]

I still have my wing commander III Disks for 3DO, and let me tell you that version stomps all over the PC version!

I no longer have access to a 3DO so I amazingly bought the PC version for like 4 bucks... It was crap!

[IceFire]

[n00b] Why did the Space Shooter genre die again? [/n00b]

Basically what Kazan said.  The publishers were stupid, didn't know how to market or manage the titles, and screwed up for the last generation and the customer base dropped right off the face of the planet.  Almost nobody bought WC: Prophecy or FreeSpace 2.  In stark contrast to TIE Fighter, the original Wing Commander games (I, II, and III), and even Descent: FreeSpace.

[Ferret]

The supposed failure of Freespace 2 astounds me, considering it's glowing reviews from pretty much all critics, the fact that a hell of a lot of people know and like it for a "failed" game and that I remember it being very easy to get hold of on it's release, it certainly wasn't hidden in game shops either, right at the front in it's big box.

I still cannot see why it did so badly. Did it REALLY do badly?

[Fury]

Good reviews don't help much if the general masses don't even know it existed. Same with WC: Prophecy. But it does not really matter anymore, we have fs2_open which is capable to revive the genre in open-source format. However, so far there has not been enough promotion of the engine and the total conversions that are done or in the works. But that will change.

[achtung]

Good reviews don't help much if the general masses don't even know it existed. Same with WC: Prophecy. But it does not really matter anymore, we have fs2_open which is capable to revive the genre in open-source format. However, so far there has not been enough promotion of the engine and the total conversions that are done or in the works. But that will change.

I sense a secret.  Reveal it!

[aldo_14]

The supposed failure of Freespace 2 astounds me, considering it's glowing reviews from pretty much all critics, the fact that a hell of a lot of people know and like it for a "failed" game and that I remember it being very easy to get hold of on it's release, it certainly wasn't hidden in game shops either, right at the front in it's big box.

I still cannot see why it did so badly. Did it REALLY do badly?

Pretty badly.

I guess.... think Psychonauts for a recent example.  Or Beyond Good and Evil.

[Colonol Dekker]

I still have my wing commander III Disks for 3DO, and let me tell you that version stomps all over the PC version!

I no longer have access to a 3DO so I amazingly bought the PC version for like 4 bucks... It was crap!

This statement insults the Confederations honour........


With regards to Prophecy, i remember the hype for WC3 + 4 (biggest budget ever- for its time) yet the only news of prophecyt that i found was one demo on an old CD and seeing it on sale in WHSmiths of all places..... 

I love the atmosphere of WC more than FS2, but FS2 has snazzier graphics, i have to add once the WC project is done, my soul will be in a new debacle of torment over wether i'm being true to FS2 or WC in loving the mod so much.

[DaBrain]

I guess the problem with the space shooter genre is the requirement of a joystick. Many people don't have a joystick and it's not really fun to play a real space shooter with mouse and keyboard.

Freelancer did this pretty well, but in my eyes it's no real space shooter.


Well... anyway, I'm pretty sure EA will revive the Wing Commander franchise some day. With a small budget of course. Many fans will buy it, bu it will be bad. I'd probably buy a new Wing Commander too... even if it's bad.



Why did the genre die?
My answer: First-Person-Shooter

But the FPS genre will die next. There has just been too much of it. Even FPS fans start looking for some other games. Did you notice the small revival of the Adventure genre? And I'm pretty sure there are also more RPG in the works than a few years ago.


The Space Shoother genre shall rise again!

[Wobble73]

I guess the problem with the space shooter genre is the requirement of a joystick. Many people don't have a joystick and it's not really fun to play a real space shooter with mouse and keyboard.

Freelancer did this pretty well, but in my eyes it's no real space shooter.


Well... anyway, I'm pretty sure EA will revive the Wing Commander franchise some day. With a small budget of course. Many fans will buy it, bu it will be bad. I'd probably buy a new Wing Commander too... even if it's bad.



Why did the genre die?
My answer: First-Person-Shooter

But the FPS genre will die next. There has just been too much of it. Even FPS fans start looking for some other games. Did you notice the small revival of the Adventure genre? And I'm pretty sure there are also more RPG in the works than a few years ago.


The Space Shoother genre shall rise again!

I agree, I was I big fan of FPS games, but than I got really bored and started looking through some of my older games and demo's and came across the FS2 demo, thought actually I remeber playing this but never all the way through! I should look into getting the full version of this as it's wicked, then I found this site and you guys and haven't played another game since? (Apart from a few other space sims out there which really don't compare) Starwraith 3D, X beyond the frontier, X2 etc.

Might have a download of some of the above though and give them a try, never played WC before. (I actually have the original privateer disks at home, but couldn't play them as DOS is required)

[Turnsky]

I guess the problem with the space shooter genre is the requirement of a joystick. Many people don't have a joystick and it's not really fun to play a real space shooter with mouse and keyboard.

Freelancer did this pretty well, but in my eyes it's no real space shooter.


Well... anyway, I'm pretty sure EA will revive the Wing Commander franchise some day. With a small budget of course. Many fans will buy it, bu it will be bad. I'd probably buy a new Wing Commander too... even if it's bad.



Why did the genre die?
My answer: First-Person-Shooter

But the FPS genre will die next. There has just been too much of it. Even FPS fans start looking for some other games. Did you notice the small revival of the Adventure genre? And I'm pretty sure there are also more RPG in the works than a few years ago.


The Space Shoother genre shall rise again!

the FPS genre is beginning to die off because of the glut of WW2 based games using that genre, people are gonna get tired of that sooner or later.

[Kazan]

MMO (mostly MMORPGs) own gaming right now