[Spicious]

It should be something like

• detail0
  
  • helper
    
    • glowbank
      
      • glowbank01-01
      • glowbank01-02
    • glowbank
      
      • glowbank02-01
    • glowbank
      • glowpoint
      • glowpoint
      • glowpoint
      • anything here the name doesn't matter

[Scooby_Doo]

Cool, not sure what I was doing wrong but it works.

BTW these layout charts should be included on the wiki page. 

[Vasudan Admiral]

How should they be setup?

• detail0
  
  • helper
    
    • glowbank
      
      • glowpoint01-01
      • glowpoint01-02
      • glowpoint02-01

^like that IIRC.

[Turambar]

"Great Flameing Graphics error of DOOM!!!"

"Warning OGL reported "invalid value" at .\pcs_file.cpp (1724)
 please report this issue to Bobbau
 

...or else..."

I am getting this.  I am reporting it.

[chief1983]

I've added all the links to the required files to the Wiki page for Collada Importer, and I recommend using the newer VC2008 SP1 Runtimes instead of those earlier ones.

[pecenipicek]

using VBO and the other geometry something triggers those errors Turambar.

[Turambar]

how do i not use those things?

[pecenipicek]

options on pcs2 and untick the two checkboxes, namely use VBO Objects (if able) and the other one. forgot how its called, but its right next to it

[LuaPineapple]

You get me Collada support and I'll get you Bullet.

[Spicious]

Wha?

[Scooby_Doo]

Ok possible problematic issue.  It looks like side mounted turrets need to be x-reset in order for them to be rotated to the right position.  However when I do that, I'll lose the angles needed for PCS subsystem vector.

[Spicious]

What happens if you don't x-reset?

[Scooby_Doo]

Turrets show up at wrong angles.  It seems to be that they were at 0 and 180 (straight up or down), but don't quote me.  A workaround solution, is to copy the x,y,z angles into the turrets properties.  At least that way they'll be saved and far easier than copying them into notepad.

Also it seems that you have to x-reset not only the turrets, but their firepoints as well... ugh this is going to take a while.

Edit: oh oh, when you reset the firepoint (s), which you need otherwise they won't be placed correctly, their normals go (0,1,0) (straight up).  How do I get around this?

Double edit: ehhh somethings not working right at all.

[DaBrain]

If you reset any helper object, it will have a 0,0,0 orientation, so you can't/may now reset firepoints.

If you reset them and keep their orientation, you forgot to unlink them. Child objects can't be reset.

[Scooby_Doo]

Hmmmm

I started with a simple GTC Cube.  Created a turret, moved it to cube ship.  Rotated it 45 on the Y axis.  Did not x-reset.  When I imported it into pcs2 the turret is in the correct spot, but it seems to be rotated 45 on the Z axis.  Are the axises (sp?) getting mixed up?

[Spicious]

They might be.

[Scooby_Doo]

Here's the test model:

http://scoobydoo.freespacemods.net/Problems/test.dae

[Spicious]

Thanks. It turns out I was applying the change to FS2 axes before the rotation instead of after. Build updated!

[Scooby_Doo]

Thanks. It turns out I was applying the change to FS2 axes before the rotation instead of after. Build updated!

Sweet... actually this might solve my earlier turret rotation/x-form issues 

Question, does it ignore numbers after things like helpers and firepoints?  i.e. helper01, helper02 becomes helper, helper.  I ask this because max will append a number if you clone an object (or increment the existing number)


Edit: More importantly, how are subsystem lods handled?  I know the subsystem would need to be attached to detail1, but how should it be named?

[Spicious]

Sweet... actually this might solve my earlier turret rotation/x-form issues 

If something is acting weirdly, let me know.

Question, does it ignore numbers after things like helpers and firepoints?  i.e. helper01, helper02 becomes helper, helper.  I ask this because max will append a number if you clone an object (or increment the existing number)

Unless it's something where the numbering matters (LODs, eyepoints, maybe something else), any trailing numbers/letters should be ignored.

Edit: More importantly, how are subsystem lods handled?  I know the subsystem would need to be attached to detail1, but how should it be named?

I believe it's just subsystema for lod0, subsystemb for lod1 etc. The importer doesn't do anything explicitly with subsystem lods.