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Offline Kazan

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Try the attached.

Is there a problem with using a more modern VCS?

Is that diff against trunk or 2_0-fixes?

i plan to move it to SVN after collada is merged into head and i get head running stable - was in the middle of re-factoring some inter-thread communication and I destabilized the program.

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Trunk from some time ago.

Mercurial or git!

 

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
He wouldn't do that at least since Sourceforge doesn't support it yet, although I would love to just see it all on github or repo.or.cz.  But I'm not gonna push it as long as I get commit access to it :)
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Mercurial or git!

no

change to "maybe"

it appears that Git's user tools at least are getting more robust and actually workable.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
I think I can live with SVN after all; Mercurial and git both seem to have decent looking SVN wrappers.

  

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
you find a decent hosting service for Git and I might use it.  my problem with them to date has been lack of toolchain maturity (combined with bandwagonism in the early adopters)
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
git might be more future proof, as you said there seems to be quite the bandwagon, but I'm quite happy with SVN, hell if the tools worked better for me I'd be happy with CVS still. but whatever we do we need to do it, and get it done, development is going to remain stalled until we get a maintained repository other than CVS.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
github or repo.or.cz both seem like good options, they're very social-oriented coding repositories.

Git's SVN wrapper is more capable than Mercurial's from what I heard, but I'm not a fan of the wrappers themselves anyway.

Git's windows tools have come leaps and bounds forward in just the last year.  TortoiseGit is very stable now and msysgit even comes with its own gui tools.  I've been using Git on OS X and Windows now, and it obviously works fine on Linux.  Git 1.7.0 especially seems to have taken care of a lot of little nitpicks in the tools.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
you find a decent hosting service for Git and I might use it.  my problem with them to date has been lack of toolchain maturity (combined with bandwagonism in the early adopters)

I realize that I have nothing of value to say on the topic of the thread, but I would like to add my two cents about the VCS:
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Code wants to be free. Host your code on our free and public, warm and cozy SVN, Git, Mercurial, Bazaar, or CVS servers.

The SourceForge Features Page says that SF supports both Git and Mercurial, so there is no need to move from SF.

Yes, Git has quite the bandwagon going for it but that is mostly because of who started it. That being said I don't think there is much concern about the future of either Git or Mercurial if only because of the current projects that are now using it.  Git has the Linux Kernel Team and Mercurial has CPython Development Team.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
yeah, that's what I was talking about with the 'future proof' comment, GIT seems to be the way stuff is moving, so it might be a good idea to go with them so we don't have to worry about SVN losing support in two years, but the state of technology as it is, SVN is fine.

GIT also has the 'oh, shiny' factor going for it.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
SF says they have GIT, but i haven't seen it.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
gotta enable it. under project admin, feature settings, under the availible features tab. (if you are an admin of a project)


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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
So is this project still running?   What kind of state is it in?

I've been using a version of Collada PCS2 for quite some time now, I don't know about everyone else, but being able to use any up-to-date 3d modelling software instead of going through old, unsupported programs is a dream.

I've noticed there hasn't been any mention or new posts for a while...

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Well, can't say anything about Spicious' plans in this regard, but PCS2 and ModelView development has been forked here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=69360.0

Sooner or later, we're going to be looking at the bugs that are currently known, and try to fix them.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
forking out of my repo = bad idea
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Kaz, we've been hobbling along with a set of somewhat unstable PCS2 builds for some time.  We've asked several times for a move to a more modern VCS, of which you hadn't seem opposed to but have yet to do.  The code for Collada support has been published several times in whole on the forums in the new PCS 2.1 format, and now you've only recently asked Spicious to commit it himself instead of doing this at some point in the last six months or more.  I'm not mad or anything, but there are many modders who have grown tired of waiting for this tool to get to a usable state, and The_E has picked up work on ModelView, as apparently the interface is more desirable than that found in PCS2 to many modders.  Since there is a lot of good code in PCS2's core, The_E has decided to utilize some of that to replace the ModelView core, starting with texture processing.  I suggested that perhaps the core could be modified in such a way that both ModelView and PCS2 could be built against it, since I don't see ModelView ever being a cross platform interface, and any enhancements made to the PCS2 core through that project could then immediately be available to PCS2 as well.  Keeping it in one repository would allow for a checkout that could build either ModelView or PCS2, from a common backend model handling library.  The Windows modders would have ModelView, or PCS2, and PCS2 could still be developed into a cross platform tool, all while maintaining a common core.  But with this much new interest in the project, we need to get it out of CVS right meow and into something newer.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not chewing you, I'm just pointing out that there's been a lot of frustration as of late and these are observations that have been made by most of the community.  I'm personally against any forking but we need a little help and cooperation from you to avoid that I think.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
lol things change fast.


Collada support was integrated into PCS2's CVS yesterday, today i migrated PCS2 to SF.net git is now in PCS2's

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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
If you're a dev you can use the url ssh://[email protected]/gitroot/alliance/PCS2 and it'll just ask for your password.  Or upload your SSH key to Sourceforge and you won't ever need to authenticate.
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Re: Cash prize for Collada - POF support!
Build updated. The inconsistent crashes on load and save should be fixed (or at least greatly reduced).