[Kosh]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7524607.stm


Thankfully no one was killed, but 3 were hurt.

[NGTM-1R]

Well, that article tells me damn near nothing...

[Scuddie]

Failure to care imminent.

[Nuke]

ah, my old stomping ground. i wonder if it was the school i went to.

[captain-custard]

Well, that article tells me damn near nothing...

it tells us that guns are dangerous and available and that education can be dangerous......


one hopes eventually that the right to carry arms in the USA is finally abolished , you have an army now and no longer rely on a militia

[BloodEagle]

Well, that article tells me damn near nothing...

it tells us that guns are dangerous and available and that education can be dangerous......


one hopes eventually that the right to carry arms in the USA is finally abolished , you have an army now and no longer rely on a militia

Because banning something makes it stop/go away. 

[Hippo]

i seem to remember alcohol being abolished and that simply causing more problems... or the UK gun ban that then put even the police at a disadvantage...

[Shade]

As I recall most police in the UK don't carry guns even now, so how on earth could a gun ban have caused problems for them?

[captain-custard]

banning something does not make it stop or go away but it does make it more unlikly too happen , but then again if i remember the facts say that if we study the countries that have the same gun laws as america there is one significant fact that " americans and guns is a bad combination"

[Hippo]

i want to see an unarmed (read: no long range weapons, billy clubs/swords noninclusive) police force take down an armed gunman

[Shade]

I said most, not all. They have special 'firearms units' which do carry such weapons, but generally your average policeman on the street does not. Of course, this may have changed and be all wrong, in which case I'm sure some UK resident will correct me.

[captain-custard]

run them over using an amoured car seems to work , G8 protests in italy prove that armoured cars even moving slowly can stop and kill "violent and dangerous people"



"...." very old referance

[Nuclear1]

banning something does not make it stop or go away but it does make it more unlikly too happen

No it doesn't.

It opens up black markets for the banned items, leading to organized crime.  (See: Drug cartels, Prohibition) It makes it extremely dangerous and near impossible for people who need firearms to defend themselves to acquire them, and it skyrockets gun violence rates in areas that implement bans (Washington DC was at emergency levels in 2006).

[Hellstryker]

Well, that article tells me damn near nothing...

it tells us that guns are dangerous and available and that education can be dangerous......


one hopes eventually that the right to carry arms in the USA is finally abolished , you have an army now and no longer rely on a militia

And what happens when the defecation hits the ventilation? And besides the point, it is completely unconstitutional. I'm all for gun education and stricted, less retarded parents, but i'm not about to give up my right to bear arms.

[captain-custard]

banning something does not make it stop or go away but it does make it more unlikly too happen

No it doesn't.

It opens up black markets for the banned items, leading to organized crime.  (See: Drug cartels, Prohibition) It makes it extremely dangerous and near impossible for people who need firearms to defend themselves to acquire them, and it skyrockets gun violence rates in areas that implement bans (Washington DC was at emergency levels in 2006).

then why if it changes nothing are there less gun related crimes in the uk where its virtualy impossible to get a gun , and skool based shootings seem to be virtualy inexistant , par capita

[BloodEagle]

Are you talking about the UK, or Britain?

[Nuclear1]

then why if it changes nothing are there less gun related crimes in the uk where its virtualy impossible to get a gun , and skool based shootings seem to be virtualy inexistant , par capita

Apples and oranges.

You're comparing Britain (a country with no real gun culture), to a country whose supreme law of the land protects the right to bear arms.  Surprisingly enough to the Eurocentrics among us, what works for Europe is not always going to work for the United States as well.

[Mars]

Also, Britain is an island, and the nearest neighbors have a similar outlooks on guns, whereas the US have large, unguarded borders and manufactures many weapons themselves.

[Nuke]

im actually supprised noone shot back. in phoenix, everyone and their mother owns a gun.

[Kosh]

banning something does not make it stop or go away but it does make it more unlikly too happen

No it doesn't.

It opens up black markets for the banned items, leading to organized crime.  (See: Drug cartels, Prohibition) It makes it extremely dangerous and near impossible for people who need firearms to defend themselves to acquire them, and it skyrockets gun violence rates in areas that implement bans (Washington DC was at emergency levels in 2006).

So why aren't there raging gun battles in the UK, where there are very strict gun bans? Why does that only seem to happen in the US?

I think that it's because it is too easy to get guns illegally in the US. As a result we've got gangs running around with AK 47's.