[Nico]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Those are Haunts, not Zombies.

sue me for not knowing the english names of fantasy creatures

[CP5670]

Stolen from Duke3d.

Yeah, it has a few weapons from other games; the BFG also makes a comeback as well.

You got that right... AvP (and AvP2) is so far the only game that REALLY scared the crap out of me. Damn, I still remember how my neck was hurting after a playing session with marine, because I have been so scared

They were certainly atmospheric but I didn't really find them scary... (come to think of it, I can't think of any game that was really scary, so to speak)

Thief and Thief2 were exiting, not so scary as AvP. It was awesome to wait in a corner and listen how guards walk by and then knock them out with blackjack. Man it was a great feeling

LOL, doing that kind of thing was really great, especially when they say things like "nobody is getting past us."

[mikhael]

AvP? Atmosphere? No. That has cheap slasher movie thrills. "Oh an alien! Oh a predator! Oh, i fear!" BAH, I say.

System Shock 2 makes you FEAR. It makes your belly twist and seriously reconsider going through that door. "we are we are we... are... is there another? your song is not ours.... silence the discord...." Cyber ninjas, mutated people, invisible spiders, crazy security turrets, security cameras, psychic monkeys, C3PO on crack and the voice of the Many in your head...

Thief is also good. Make one mistake and then watch them search for you, while you hide in the shadows and pray they come your way! Or when you're walking along and you see a dead body and you go over to it and.... its just a dead body but while you're looking at it, something shambled up behind you. You step away and draw steel and try to kill it and IT DOES NOT DIE. All it does is moan and keep coming and you don't have any holy water or fire arrows and all you can do is run and OH DEAR GODS THERE'S ANOTHER ONE!

Oh yeah. THAT'S atmosphere. THAT's setting. THAT's mood.  AvP? Cheap schlock twitch action crap. Its Quake3 with more character, but still not a candle to Shock2 and Thief1&2.

[Styxx]

See? Told ya! :ha:

[NegspectahDek]

i disagree, but thats just me

[Nico]

Originally posted by NegspectahDek
i disagree, but thats just me

well, I tried the demo of both AvP, and I admit my heart was beating much faster than the motion detector

[mikhael]

Originally posted by venom2506


well, I tried the demo of both AvP, and I admit my heart was beating much faster than the motion detector

If its just about heart beat, Dance Dance Revolution probably is the BEST GAME EVAR. It really gets the heart rate up.

[NegspectahDek]

lol, its not about heart beat, its about why.  Given a choice, would you rather be dude on system shock 2 or a single colonial marine in the middle of a nest of aliens with a few invisble predators thrown in to add some flavor?

[Zeronet]

AVP2 is scary, i cant stand those Face Huggers. They freak me out when i see em.

[Nico]

Originally posted by NegspectahDek
lol, its not about heart beat, its about why.  Given a choice, would you rather be dude on system shock 2 or a single colonial marine in the middle of a nest of aliens with a few invisble predators thrown in to add some flavor?

I'd be Garret! Garret's cool, he's not an anonymous guy like in AvP ( I won't say about SS2, coz I dunno ), Garret really cracks me up (well, i'm kindda the sardonic kind )

[mikhael]

Originally posted by NegspectahDek
lol, its not about heart beat, its about why.  Given a choice, would you rather be dude on system shock 2 or a single colonial marine in the middle of a nest of aliens with a few invisble predators thrown in to add some flavor?

Let me think... nameless faceless colonial marine who needs to only have the IQ to dodge and pull a trigger...

OR, the sneaking poltergeist, who uses his hacking ability to turn the enemies turrets against him, who uses his psychic abilities to make enemies turn on each other, who uses his sneaks invisibly past the enemy, dropping a proximity mine along the way? Or maybe I COULD be the colonial marine blasting things mindlessly. Or I could be a swashbuckling rapier wielding dandy who fences with robots. Sorry, dude. I can do all of this because I can customize my character the way I want. AvP is just lacking.

Or, I could skip Shock2 entirely and play Thief and be Garret, a guy with personality, skill, and a blackjack.

[NegspectahDek]

*sigh*, well nobody's perfect

[Blue Lion]

I am prefcet!!!1111one1111

[mikhael]

Sorry, NegspectahDek. I just don't groove on twitch games.

Shock2, Thief, Deus Ex all rock because they don't require you to be a twitch fiend. Thief actively encourages a zero-kill game. Deus Ex and Shock2 allow you to play twitch or play thoughtful and slow. I opt for Thoughtful and slow as often as possible.

AvP, like Quake, Doom, and even HalfLife, tends to push twitch gameplay. I've got reasonable reflexes, but the only place I have any interest of playing twitch-and-shoot is in a space combat sim or flight sim.

I've got a brain and I like to use it when it comes to gaming.

[NegspectahDek]

you sure are

[Fineus]

Originally posted by mikhael
Shock2, Thief, Deus Ex all rock because they don't require you to be a twitch fiend. Thief actively encourages a zero-kill game. Deus Ex and Shock2 allow you to play twitch or play thoughtful and slow. I opt for Thoughtful and slow as often as possible.

AvP, like Quake, Doom, and even HalfLife, tends to push twitch gameplay. I've got reasonable reflexes, but the only place I have any interest of playing twitch-and-shoot is in a space combat sim or flight sim.

Summing up - different people like different types of game

[Blue Lion]

Originally posted by mikhael
Thief actively encourages a zero-kill game.

 Too bad I never listen to them, I always walk in the front door, kill everyone and just walk around stealing stuff....I don't think that's how you're supposed to play

[NegspectahDek]

whats funny is that i dont really like twitch games.

[Styxx]

Originally posted by NegspectahDek
lol, its not about heart beat, its about why.  Given a choice, would you rather be dude on system shock 2 or a single colonial marine in the middle of a nest of aliens with a few invisble predators thrown in to add some flavor?

I'd be the Colonial Marine - at least I'd know what I'm fighing against, and I'd have my memory intact...



(for those who didn't notice, that means System Shock 2 scares me a LOT more than AvP )

[Nico]

Originally posted by Blue Lion


 Too bad I never listen to them, I always walk in the front door, kill everyone and just walk around stealing stuff....I don't think that's how you're supposed to play

Lol, you're better than me then, coz I can't handle more than two guys at a time in Thief ( yeah, I love this realistic way of handling fights, Garret is a thief, not a warrior, and actually the fact that I can handle two guys is even too much I think) -btw, you're not perfect, you can't slple

Btw, I'd be a colonial marine, coz I know I could at least shoot at things, being a hacker or a thief, that's out of my skills (not that I would last long as a marine anyway)
BTW, I like both kinds of FPS, coz initially, FPS are made to shoot at a lot of bad guys (hence the designation) coz I like to to mindless games sometimes. I don't really call Thief a FPS ( would mean first person slasher anyway in that case lol).