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Offline Kosh

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International Innovation Index
on: July 22, 2009, 09:32:21 am
Ran accross this gem and thought it was pretty interesting


In the overall ranking Singapore and South Korea are number one and two respctively, while the US is number 8.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 10:55:28 am by General Battuta »
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 10:49:41 am
Quote from: Kosh on July 22, 2009, 09:32:21 am
Ran accross this gem and thought it was pretty interesting


In the overall ranking Singapore and South Korea are number one and two respctively, while the US is number 8.

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 10:55:46 am
Took care of the broken link.
 

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:47 pm
JUST KIDDING
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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 02:45:26 pm
Does negative performance indicate your nation is in a technological back slide?
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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 08:03:44 pm
If I had to guess I would say it means the more negative the number the more tech they have to import.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Polpolion

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 12:21:45 am
How do you quantify innovation?
 

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 12:37:35 am
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How do you quantify innovation?

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 05:41:55 am
Most likely patents and trademarks applied for, it's the only way to quantify it.

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 06:35:45 am
Quote from: Liberator on July 23, 2009, 05:41:55 am
Most likely patents and trademarks applied for, it's the only way to quantify it.

/tinfoilhat There's probably a ZP energy device somewhere in the government's warehouse of ideas.

Partly.

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It looks at new policy indicators for innovation, including tax incentives and policies for immigration, education and intellectual property.
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To rank the countries, the study measured both innovation inputs and outputs. Innovation inputs included government and fiscal policy, education policy and the innovation environment. Outputs included patents, technology transfer, and other R&D results; business performance, such as labor productivity and total shareholder returns; and the impact of innovation on business migration and economic growth.

How to quantify it? Assign numbers to  performance and factors that encourage it (policies mainly)
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Polpolion

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 11:41:09 am
Quote from: Kosh on July 23, 2009, 06:35:45 am
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It looks at new policy indicators for innovation, including tax incentives and policies for immigration, education and intellectual property.
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To rank the countries, the study measured both innovation inputs and outputs. Innovation inputs included government and fiscal policy, education policy and the innovation environment. Outputs included patents, technology transfer, and other R&D results; business performance, such as labor productivity and total shareholder returns; and the impact of innovation on business migration and economic growth.
How to quantify it? Assign numbers to  performance and factors that encourage it (policies mainly)

Yes, that's certainly what they said in the articles. That's not what I'm confused about. What I want to know is how they turned those into numbers.

For example, they said they "measured" innovation inputs and outputs. Innovation inputs include government policies. How do you "measure" those?

Forgive me, but this sounds like one of those miracle weight-loss drug commercials.
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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 09:24:24 pm
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What I want to know is how they turned those into numbers.

Isn't that what I just answered?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Polpolion

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Re: International Innovation Index
Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 09:37:45 pm
Quote from: Kosh on July 23, 2009, 09:24:24 pm
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What I want to know is how they turned those into numbers.

Isn't that what I just answered?

 :wtf: You told be what qualities they look at.

Past that, you told me that they assign numbers to performance and factors that encourage it, which honestly is extremely obvious. What I want to know is how they determined which factors correlate to which numbers.
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