[Spoon]

Answer the call some year

[Novachen]

Answer the call some year

I already hang up, because the telephone costs were too high because i was placed on hold for too long 

[Aesaar]

I'm really enjoying the citizen response:




















You just don't understand game development, your honor!


The tears if CIG lose are going to be incredible.

[Colonol Dekker]

I like the older judges.  They don't get mired in irrelevant details.    Key facts.

-They promised something by a certain date.

-Failed to deliver.

-Changed terms.

-Continued to fail.

-Changed terms again.


Guess what the judge will hopefully focus on.....hopefully.

[StarSlayer]

Meme-while EvE just had its largest battle earlier this month at X47L-Q.

[Blue Lion]

I rocked faces in that battle. Over here Eve-ing it up while other people wait for a game maybe.

[Mikes]

Funny fact. Star Citizen as promised was never gonna be anything like Eve.

And Star Citizen as it is is not gonna be anything (much).

Just wondering what all the Eve-ers ever saw in the game in the first place or why it keeps being compared or even mentioned in the same sentence.

Is it because "space"? But if it's all about "space" could as well play Freespace instead of Eve, because Freespace has, you know, "gameplay". 

[Buckshee Rounds]

I think SC became attractive to the Eve crowd when it started to become DCS world in space. Eve players prefer monotony and minutiae over actual fun.

[Det. Bullock]

I think SC became attractive to the Eve crowd when it started to become DCS world in space. Eve players prefer monotony and minutiae over actual fun.

I don't think so, Eve players like minutiae that can be put on a spreadsheet, DCS is another kind of beast in that regard.

Jokes, aside: isn't Eve one of those games that is controlled a bit like a RTS/4x (that is, mouse and a lot of menus)? Because it doesn't seem you have direct control of the ships there.

[Buckshee Rounds]

Having played the demo years ago, it is yes. Nothing wrong with that if you enjoy it of course.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

I think SC became attractive to the Eve crowd when it started to become DCS world in space. Eve players prefer monotony and minutiae over actual fun.

I don't think so, Eve players like minutiae that can be put on a spreadsheet, DCS is another kind of beast in that regard.

Jokes, aside: isn't Eve one of those games that is controlled a bit like a RTS/4x (that is, mouse and a lot of menus)? Because it doesn't seem you have direct control of the ships there.

You can manually pilot with WASD now, and have been able to double-click a point in space to head in that direction for some time.

Since most of the massive battles are in the cancer that is capital ships, it doesn't get a whole lot of mileage, but your interceptor and hictor pilots better know to manually change orbits that way.

Just so this isn't completely off-topic, I am absolutely amazed by the number of sudden armchair lawyers in the legions of ****izens.

And when I say "amazed" what I really mean is "**** it, let the nukes fly, we have failed."

[Woolie Wool]

To be fair, it will teach all the people who have just been claiming that the ships are just a donation to help with developing the game not to bull****. "You spent $27,000 on ships and then got owned by someone in the starting fighter?"

Or consider it another, even worse way: what if this means that as the fighter pilot who doesn't have $27,000 to spend on imaginary spaceships, you have to take orders from the guy who did, because he's got the command ship? You give your life away working a thankless job for a rich jerk in real life, why not video games too?

If there's no competition it's not a game.  It's a boredom simulator.

This is not necessarily true, though a military spaceship mumorpeger is probably not a good place to find a relaxing, non-competitive good time.

[Colonol Dekker]

As much as I love free space and wing commander.  I do worry about those that live in virtuality.

[Lorric]

Afaik, Eve slows down to a very slow crawl in these mega battles. I wonder if players of a game like Star Citizen / Elite Dangerous would be able to enjoy playing under similar conditions? The dogfighting would become pinpoint precise in the super slo-mo, but it would be physically taxing on your hands maintaining that precision for hours on end. The battles would be epic if they could be later replayed and viewed in real time with everyone flying like an ace in colossal battles.

[TwentyPercentCooler]

Afaik, Eve slows down to a very slow crawl in these mega battles. I wonder if players of a game like Star Citizen / Elite Dangerous would be able to enjoy playing under similar conditions? The dogfighting would become pinpoint precise in the super slo-mo, but it would be physically taxing on your hands maintaining that precision for hours on end. The battles would be epic if they could be later replayed and viewed in real time with everyone flying like an ace in colossal battles.

The problem is that the EVE solution of time dilation would be utterly unacceptable to Lord Croberts, given what we've seen of his mentality in the past. I do not expect him to allow a solution like that unless his coders slip him some roofies and get him to agree to it. 

[manwiththemachinegun]

It's fun to take the piss out of Star Citizen, but are there any new actual space sim action light simulations in the pipeline currently?

[karajorma]

Afaik, Eve slows down to a very slow crawl in these mega battles. I wonder if players of a game like Star Citizen / Elite Dangerous would be able to enjoy playing under similar conditions? The dogfighting would become pinpoint precise in the super slo-mo, but it would be physically taxing on your hands maintaining that precision for hours on end. The battles would be epic if they could be later replayed and viewed in real time with everyone flying like an ace in colossal battles.

I can't see the generation who demand 60fps being willing to accept 2 fps.

Eve can get away with slowing things down because of the kind of game it is.

[666maslo666]

It's fun to take the piss out of Star Citizen, but are there any new actual space sim action light simulations in the pipeline currently?

There is nothing. I would be much more critical towards Star Citizen if there were at least some examples of a similar concept but better executed. As things stand currently, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

[Aesaar]

There is nothing. I would be much more critical towards Star Citizen if there were at least some examples of a similar concept but better executed. As things stand currently, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Bull****.  You'd just move the goalposts to make sure Star Citizen is the only game you consider to be in contention.

Because "similar concept but better executed" is exactly what Elite Dangerous is.

[BlueFlames]

In the land of the blind, Maslo plucked out both of his eyeballs.  He wasn't really using them for anything, so traded them in for more space Winnebagos.