[Vector Leader]

Yikes... I'm really not liking these designs.

I hope Disney/LFL isn't going to shoehorn new ships/vehicles into the film simply to give the audience something new to see (and toys to buy). They need to put a lot of thought into it so it doesn't end up contrived. There are already a myriad of canonical ships/vehicles that fill pretty much every combat role at this point of the GCW. Anything new needs to make sense (and look good).

Well, take a look at Battle of Yavin and count how many Y-Wings survive at the end. IIRC, only one made it out. Sure, they were at a disadvantage, but X-Wings managed a lot better.

That's not fair or accurate to say. One Y-wing survived out of eight (one of only two that had functional ion cannons; Dutch, Tiree and Pops would've fared much better had they not made a few tactical mistakes) while only two X-wings survived out of twenty-two (one was badly damaged; the X-wing's targeting system was incapable of accurately locking onto the exhaust port).

Y-wings were quite capable at dogfighting TIEs. Even at the end of the GCW.

[Phantom Hoover]

I hope Disney/LFL isn't going to shoehorn new ships/vehicles into the film simply to give the audience something new to see (and toys to buy). They need to put a lot of thought into it so it doesn't end up contrived. There are already a myriad of canonical ships/vehicles that fill pretty much every combat role at this point of the GCW. Anything new needs to make sense (and look good).

Disney don't give a **** about the old Extended Universe, and that's by far the best thing they've done with the franchise.

[Vector Leader]

I hope Disney/LFL isn't going to shoehorn new ships/vehicles into the film simply to give the audience something new to see (and toys to buy). They need to put a lot of thought into it so it doesn't end up contrived. There are already a myriad of canonical ships/vehicles that fill pretty much every combat role at this point of the GCW. Anything new needs to make sense (and look good).

Disney don't give a **** about the old Extended Universe, and that's by far the best thing they've done with the franchise.

I agree, but I wasn't referring to the old EU. My point is, I don't want them repeating the same garbage.

[StarSlayer]

So wait, they basically inverted the colors of the TIE fighter for the Force Awakens, yet they are going to shoe in 2/3rds of a TIE Phantom for this flick?

I actually think it would be fun if they had surplus LAATIs for drop ships, I'm not particularly wowed by the Ugly bucket.

[Wobble73]

That Starfighter reminds me a little of Buck Rogers ship! You young uns probably won't remember who he was!

[StarSlayer]

Erin Gray

[Riverstyx]

I don’t mind the kitbash design. I think canon was already stretching suspension of disbelief a bit too far, what with Rebels being able to secure new and unique starfighter models almost as often as the rich and well-connected Empire.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original EU explanation was that Incom was originally commissioned to create the X-wing for the Empire, then most of them defected to the Rebels once work was complete, when the Empire started moving to nationalize the corporation.

Nevermind, I just looked it up.  Apparently Incom sided with the Rebels shortly before work on the X-wing began, not after.

On the new fighters: I don't mind the design of the new TIE, but the Rebel fighter is just nasty looking.

[AdmiralRalwood]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original EU explanation was that Incom was originally commissioned to create the X-wing for the Empire, then most of them defected to the Rebels once work was complete, when the Empire started moving to nationalize the corporation.

Nevermind, I just looked it up.  Apparently Incom sided with the Rebels shortly before work on the X-wing began, not after.

As far as I can tell, your striken-out text is the correct interpretation of events:

The X-wing was originally designed by Incom Corporation for the Empire by Vors Voorhorian. It was directly descended from the old Z-95 Headhunter, built by Incom and Subpro, with lessons learned from the ARC-170 starfighter of the Clone Wars. After the Galactic Empire planned to nationalize the Incom Corporation, the entire engineering team defected to the Rebel Alliance with the prototypes hidden on Fresia.

[Riverstyx]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original EU explanation was that Incom was originally commissioned to create the X-wing for the Empire, then most of them defected to the Rebels once work was complete, when the Empire started moving to nationalize the corporation.

Nevermind, I just looked it up.  Apparently Incom sided with the Rebels shortly before work on the X-wing began, not after.

As far as I can tell, your striken-out text is the correct interpretation of events:

The X-wing was originally designed by Incom Corporation for the Empire by Vors Voorhorian. It was directly descended from the old Z-95 Headhunter, built by Incom and Subpro, with lessons learned from the ARC-170 starfighter of the Clone Wars. After the Galactic Empire planned to nationalize the Incom Corporation, the entire engineering team defected to the Rebel Alliance with the prototypes hidden on Fresia.

Whoops, I must have misread it then

[Dain]

Funnily enough "X-wing X-wing X-wing" is quite often how my brain works..

[Luis Dias]

It does give credence to the rumours that the whole thing was too serious of a tone.

[Frak_Tastic]

My god those ships look terrible.  I mean the rebel fighter looks like a rip off of the buck rogers fighter from the '70's show.

https://www.google.com/search?q=buck+rogers+fighter&biw=1536&bih=725&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCgvDd6LfOAhWG5SYKHctJAywQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.25

[Dragon]

That's not the first time this design appeared in SW, though:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/I-7_Howlrunner
Could very well be a reference (if not outright reintroduction) to the Howlrunner. It was originally an Imperial starfighter, funnily enough.

[CountBuggula]

Well, that ugly ship is definitely in the new trailer.  That said, the new trailer is exciting and I'm definitely looking forward to this movie.  And while there is this strange craft addition, most of what they've shown is a great mix of ships from the OT - specifically stuff we see in Episode 4, which makes sense.

Personally, I like the idea of a dark-toned Star Wars movie.  I hope the Disney execs don't dumb it down too badly.

[Dain]

Some nice X-wing action in some of the new ones. And finally, different coloured X-wing squadrons in the films. Plus they seem to have remembered how the wing markings worked originally..

[Colonol Dekker]

Erin Gray

 

[CountBuggula]

Very nice.  I admit that I'm getting almost giddy with anticipation for this movie.  And I'm fully aware what a dangerous thing that is.  Dangit.

[Trivial Psychic]

It's not JUST the Moon, its the Space Station!

 

[CountBuggula]

Wow, it looks like a squadron of TIE fighters.  That's awesome.

[niffiwan]

love it!!!