Guys, I'm wondering... many of us have been talking about promoting HLP more and really putting the community's best face forward, right?
This is literally the most posted-in topic in the past week, or more. New people see this, what do they see? Chaos. No one person is 100% responsible for this. The project head started the mod, yes, but with near everyone with some say in the community repeatedly expressing (if not shouting) their honest and fervent opinions on this unusual affair, things have gotten out of hand. And they will not get better just by continuing to rant at the project head thus giving him attention and something to keep talking about - thus wasting his time and ours.
Advise simply not posting in this topic until things improve. This advice is not an attack on Bryan See. It is a recognition that things have spiraled out of control; out of control until we all take a step back and maybe return to this topic down the road when tempers have cooled and certain issues have been recognized/fixed by those with the prerogative/responsibility to do so.
TL;DR: keep personal attacks focused on Derek Smart 
leave this topic lie, post about other stuff elsewhere and let the issue cool down, fix itself - or fade away if it will.
Well i know what you mean Hope. Actually i even try to play this, even that Mod is totally out of my taste. So i addressed the bugs i have noticed so far.
But yes, i have to say, that i am somewhat very disappointed about the result here.
Even i had doubts about this project from the beginning, because it made the impression that this one lacks any kind of project management and planning whatsoever, i still had the believe, that Bryan See was able to release a working mod after all in time. Yes, i simple ignored the catastrophic status of the "public alpha" in good faith. Because, well... nevertheless of the status of it, he insisted on this release date.
But what is released a few weeks later is nearly identical to the "public alpha" except that the missions were "finished" (hard to tell that actually, but the public alpha missions were indeed in a worse state). But all the errors in the mod package are still the same...
And i have to say... that simple upsets me, because most of the errors are totally unnecessary if this mod was tested with a Debug Build. I mean, Bryan said he tested this mod with Debug builds, but i can not believe it, at least he does not tested that with the same data set he released in the end... in both occasions. Because as i said, the "public alpha" had already the same errors.
And well, it is the same kind of error i encountered as i took over his and wouters Revenge: Final Conflict. That was released as "compatible with 3.8"... and it did not even work because many mission crashed right away as it was not tested at all. So i had my experience with how Bryan See seems to work... and it seems that nothing has changed since then.
But well, have to say that it is a mystery for me, why Bryan See still communicate with woutersmits at all who offend Bryan nearly all the time... that is only another thing i do not understand.
But what is left if i see this mod? Gallows humor unfortunately
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But Bryan still insist on his vision, which i appreciate actually and try to support as far as i can. That is the reason why i never had a problem with Derek Smart at all, he also had always a vision with his own universe and defended it by all means.
Regardless of the bad quality of this mod i try to give serious feedback between all the jokes. But well... if i have to explain how to make patches for a mod or to repeat myself what issues this one have, i am not sure, if we players are taken serious, too. Because we are not talking about a new community member here, but about a community member that released models and atleast another mod during all the years... he is no newbie.
