[Phantom Hoover]

Per clear consensus at the time, overruled by admin malpractice, I move that https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/GTC_Aeolus be unprotected effective immediately, so that the ancient wiki Dance-a-Lot may continue.

[Rhymes]

Seconded.

[Mobius]

Per clear consensus at the time, overruled by admin malpractice, I move that https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/GTC_Aeolus be unprotected effective immediately, so that the ancient wiki Dance-a-Lot may continue.

Could you stop bringing up even more drama, like, seriously?

Where's the drama in this?

My drama warning is active.

Is anyone actually willing to edit that Wiki article? Any proposed changes?

[BlackDove]

I think the proposed changes are related to flak, and flakking thereof.

[General Battuta]

May the Aeolus page please be unprotected so I can add the veteran comment 'little in the middle but she got much flak,' a harmless joke which has become a perfect synecdoche for HLP nerds' willingness to blow things wholly out of proportion.

I am awestruck by how seriously people have taken this Sir Mixalot quite. Just flabbergasted

[Mobius]

May the Aeolus page please be unprotected so I can add the veteran comment 'little in the middle but she got much flak,' a harmless joke which has become a perfect synecdoche for HLP nerds' willingness to blow things wholly out of proportion.

The last time I checked, more or less explicit vulgarities were not allowed as per the Veteran Comments Policy. There are many ways to rephrase that and make it look professional.

Also, is that quote based on this song? 

[Aesaar]

The last time I checked, more or less explicit vulgarities were not allowed as per the Veteran Comments Policy. There are many ways to rephrase that in and make it look professional.

There is absolutely nothing explicit or vulgar about the phrase "little in the middle but she got much flak."

[Mobius]

Just lock this dump thread already

This thread may still have a purpose should someone come by and propose tangible changes to that Wiki article. Tangible and relevant. Judging from the replies however, it seems it's going the opposite direction.

[mjn.mixael]

I just want to post my VC jokes

I'm all for VC jokes.

[qazwsx]

**** Battuta, I think he's on to you. You're trying to demean women by pointing out the Aeolus' flak features, aren't you? That's been your goal for the past 5 years. Bad Battuta. Bad.

sir mix a lot promotes a healthy body image and so should the HLP wiki.

[MP-Ryan]

Okay, so after a little consultation and break from yesterday's nonsense, here's the verdict.  Discussing the wiki policy and specifically how and what jokes are acceptable is fair game.  Go for it.  I've attempted a sort-of-clearish split along those lines, but I probably ended up punting a few comments to the locked side.  Rather than screwing around with more post splitting, people can re-post their thoughtful comments in this one.

To be absolutely clear:  this discussion needs to be forward looking and about wiki content.  Absolutely no slagging of past decisions, rubbing salt in current open wounds, or criticizing individuals, period.  Any of that and the post gets punted to the locked thread and the offender gets a formal warning.

For what it's worth, my feelings are that a few harmless minor jokes in the wiki are a net positive, but we certainly don't want every wiki article to suddenly become littered with them.  The rest of you who actually routinely contribute to the wiki can sort this out, however.

[EatThePath]

For what it's worth, my feelings are that a few harmless minor jokes in the wiki are a net positive, but we certainly don't want every wiki article to suddenly become littered with them.  The rest of you who actually routinely contribute to the wiki can sort this out, however.

This is pretty close to my own thoughts on the matter. It might be worth a general rule that if a comment is more entertaining than informative on uses of the ship, it should be shuffled to the bottom of the veteran comments to reduce any possible negative impact to the utility of that section, and it shouldn't be mislead either.

[General Battuta]

IT IS DONE

[Mito [PL]]

Hey, it's a singular pun in a not too consistent section that suggests not full accuracy by its own title. Surely it won't hurt to have some sideline humor in a community run Wiki.

[JSRNerdo]

I think that "The Aeolus has a narrow structural spar for a midsection, and a large number of flak guns." is appropriate, but not "Little in the middle, but she got much flak"

[General Battuta]

You should edit out then

[Androgeos Exeunt]

My main beef is that it doesn't seem to be covered by the Veteran Comments policy. However, that policy might be dated considering it was put into place 12 years ago under an administration that got nuked a few days ago. Does that require an update, and if so, what should be added to/removed from it? There's also the option of deleting the policy altogether, but that would run the risk of the VC sections (slowly) going back to what they used to be before the policy was implemented.

Is there a "better" way to place the mixalot, like a random quote at the top of the page, or is it intentional to hide it within the other VCs? Would it be even better if it was placed as an image tooltip, like what I've done to the banner on this article, or would that be missing the joke entirely (not to mention that virtually no one using a touchscreen will ever see it)?

[JSRNerdo]

You should edit out then

It is done.

[General Battuta]

IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN

[Rhymes]

Maybe we should just make this a feature of the page.

Forever oscillating between silly and serious. Never knowing what you'll find when you navigate to it.